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Old 08-22-2017, 10:57 PM
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Yeah, please reveal his ID. Pretty crappy that Paypal allows long term rentals for potential flippers.

Wonder how many Aaron Judge cards would make their way back to the original sellers if more buyers had less scruples about their purchases.
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:16 PM
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If I get an empty box, I will definitely out the eBay buyer (as well as file a police report). Any other tips are appreciated!
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As someone else mentioned, I would definitely video the opening of the box. I try to do that with all expensive purchases that I make so that if an item comes damaged or it is not what it should be, I have evidence.
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Open it at the Post Office in front of a postal employee. I do it all the time when I don't trust the shipper.
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:46 AM
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The reason the buyer opened a paypal case is because ebay only allows 30 days to open a case and receive ebay support. After 30 days, a buyer can still open a case via ebay, but the seller can simply close the case on their own(as I have had this happen). Paypal allows 180 days for a return such as this. My understanding about videoing the package opening is that paypal/ebay do not accept this, or at least that was what I was told by an ebay rep when in a similar situation a while back. However, if you do receive the empty box, as mentioned, file a police report, file a report with the USPS and finally report it to paypal. Both ebay and paypal reportedly track users who defraud others on a routine basis and they accomplish this by reports from other users. Best of luck for a smooth conclusion.
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The reason the buyer opened a paypal case is because ebay only allows 30 days to open a case and receive ebay support. After 30 days, a buyer can still open a case via ebay, but the seller can simply close the case on their own(as I have had this happen). Paypal allows 180 days for a return such as this. My understanding about videoing the package opening is that paypal/ebay do not accept this, or at least that was what I was told by an ebay rep when in a similar situation a while back. However, if you do receive the empty box, as mentioned, file a police report, file a report with the USPS and finally report it to paypal. Both ebay and paypal reportedly track users who defraud others on a routine basis and they accomplish this by reports from other users. Best of luck for a smooth conclusion.
I believe you can open in front of the Postmaster for that particular office, if he/she will take time to do this. I know they are paying more attention to crimes of this sort, so you may get fortunate to have a sympathetic person that will devote more time. You will probably have to make an appointment to take possession of the parcel at this time i.e. during the meeting to do so. eBay and PayPal will accept Affadavits as evidence. However, I do not know how much credence they place in this form of documentation. You may have to have the form notarized as well, which would complicate things....
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:35 AM
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I'd videotape the opening of the box at the PO in front of a postal employee
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If anyone ever wanted my blocked bidder list privately I'd share with the caveat that, while I am sure there were good reasons for each and every one, at the time, I have no idea what those reasons were anymore.
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If I get an empty box, I will definitely out the eBay buyer (as well as file a police report). Any other tips are appreciated!
Open the box up in front of a postal employee. I was the recipient of an empty box once.
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Yeah, please reveal his ID. Pretty crappy that Paypal allows long term rentals for potential flippers.

Wonder how many Aaron Judge cards would make their way back to the original sellers if more buyers had less scruples about their purchases.
I would bet many Judge cards are being returned. It is a real problem with "prospecting" modern cards. They buy the card relist it on eBay at a huge mark up and if it doesn't sell return.
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I never forgot the advice I got from a gentleman by the name of "Gameusedhoops" on the PSA boards MANY years ago. I have an unscrupulous buyer, and sensed it because he wanted to return some 1961 Fleer PSA graded basketball cards, due to them having qualifiers (the qualifiers were clearly listed when I bid). I had no method to film the package opening, but I did open it in front of a postal employee. He confirmed that the package was empty (the buyer shipped cracked open BVG slabs, and his attempt to steal my cards was squashed.
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I never forgot the advice I got from a gentleman by the name of "Gameusedhoops" on the PSA boards MANY years ago. I have an unscrupulous buyer, and sensed it because he wanted to return some 1961 Fleer PSA graded basketball cards, due to them having qualifiers (the qualifiers were clearly listed when I bid). I had no method to film the package opening, but I did open it in front of a postal employee. He confirmed that the package was empty (the buyer shipped cracked open BVG slabs, and his attempt to steal my cards was squashed.
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