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Old 08-24-2017, 01:28 PM
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Mark,

Thanks. I’ll take a shot at answering your questions as best I can:

1. Is there any record of specifically who/how many players on the roster were issued the "Palm Beach" Uniforms?
A: I don’t know of any formal inventory records of any manufacturer from ant team of this period. I do know that a pretty detailed photographic study and as well as contemporary information for the Dodgers, Indians, and A’s of this period indicates these were not ordered for all players. I suspect much of this was based on a player request.

2. Were the pants also "Palm Beach style", or were only the jerseys this lighter-weight style?
A: I don’t believe so based on images and not sure this would have been a practical fabric for pants.

3. Were the players given a choice of Palm Beach vs. traditional Flannel?
4. Or did management simply decide for them?
A: I would say player choice.

5. If these were indeed superior in hot weather, why were they so short-lived? Why did the Dodgers and other teams revert back to heavy flannel?
6. Were there any "issues" with the lightweight material that contributed to their demise? Was it perhaps less durable?
A: I am not so sure they were superior. First of all, in my comparative study, these “Palm Beach” uniforms are slightly heavier than the flannel fabric of the day. By 1949, fabric weight had gone from 8oz to 6oz with the introduction of synthetic fabrics. By the early 1950s, Wilson was already putting out garments in 4 1/2oz fabric and Rawlings in 1954 introduced a fabric that was 5.71oz made of a blend of Dacron and wool. I suspect they were short lived based on cost and they really were probably not that much cooler.


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Old 08-24-2017, 02:33 PM
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Thank you, Dave...

Very interesting, and appreciate you sharing the extensive research you've put into this!
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Old 08-24-2017, 06:07 PM
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Got this at the Christie's auction yesterday. The most I ever spent on an item for my women in baseball collection, but well worth it in my view. The cabinet card depicting her in uniform has twice sold for over $6,000. To me, the actual contract that made it possible is worth so much more. At least to me.

Lizzie Arlington (birth name Stride....she used Arlington as it was believed that a more European sounding name might bring more people to see her play) was the first woman to play in a minor league game. She pitched a scoreless ninth inning for the Reading Coal Baron's against the Allentown Peaches. Allentown included several players who either had played in the majors or were about to play there, including three Delahanty brothers (one of whom she got to pop out, another of whom touched her for a single). I believe she played second base for a good portion of the game as well.

Although it has not been confirmed, Ed Barrow (who signed her to the contract I just won) said she she also played in games for three other teams in the Atlantic League that year. I will do some research and see if this might be possible.

Anyway, this is the contract that made it all possible. The first woman ever to play in the minor leagues.




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Picked up 2 jerseys to add to my New Jersey collection
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Love that Bill Terry coaster.

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Congrats to everyone. There have been some great pickups recently.

I haven't posted pickups in a while, so I need to post a few things that came in over the past couple months.

1938 Rawhide promo photo with Smith Ballew


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1938 sliding into second


1927 Int Newsreel with editorial markings


Late 20's Gehrig/Lazzeri snapshot with either Lazzeri's brother or father


1927 Snapshot of Ruth and Gehrig with Barnstorming teams.

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