1952Boyntoncollector Outing prices on BST?

[seablaster]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

I'm just asking if the seller clearly removes the price, why does a third party with nothing to do with the transaction feel it's his responsibility to let the price be known?

This is 100% spot-on.

By boynton interjecting, he prevents the seller from deciding for themselves whether they want to leave the price listed or not. Why should a third party be making that decision for the seller?

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by seablaster

This is 100% spot-on.

By boynton interjecting, he prevents the seller from deciding for themselves whether they want to leave the price listed or not. Why should a third party be making that decision for the seller?

Both of these posts about sums it up for me as well. While alot of people may not like the fact sellers take the price down it is there choice. Yes it being a public forum opens up any post to being quoted with the original price in said quote. That doesnt make it any less of a dick move what Jake is doing IMO.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Jason

Both of these posts about sums it up for me as well. While alot of people may not like the fact sellers take the price down it is there choice. Yes it being a public forum opens up any post to being quoted with the original price in said quote. That doesnt make it any less of a dick move what Jake is doing IMO.

Jason, I've taken the liberty of highlighting in bold an important point in your comment above. You're spot on!!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Jason, I've taken the liberty of highlighting in bold an important point in your comment above. You're spot on!!

Tony and Jason are in the minority on this. I wish i could get asking price on every card i sold. Would be great to point out to a future buyer the 'asking price' i supposively paid and so i need to ask for more because thats how much i have into it.

Its a big secret to know a price that is likely more than what i actually paid for a card? You guys are really going to complain and start a thread on this.. hmmm so im the annoying one that is interfering. I didnt start this thread and there are actual complainers about posting a price in a public forum and upset that their fantasy price is forever listed. Can always just not list a price if its so secret.

Heck many listings say 'if cant sell i will send to an auction house' I guess the auction house will delete the sale price when they sell it.

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Tony and Jason are in the minority on this. I wish i could get asking price on every card i sold. Would be great to point out to a future buyer the 'asking price' i supposively paid and so i need to ask for more because thats how much i have into it.

Its a big secret to know a price that is likely more than what i actually paid for a card? You guys are really going to complain and start a thread on this.. hmmm so im the annoying one that is interfering. I didnt start this thread and there are actual complainers about posting a price in a public forum and upset that their fantasy price is forever listed. Can always just not list a price if its so secret.

Heck many listings say 'if cant sell i will send to an auction house' I guess the auction house will delete the sale price when they sell it.

Damn im always in the minority. Still a dick move

Wish in one hand and actually BUY cards and contribute to the hobby in a positive manner in the other and see which fills up first!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Jason

Damn im always in the minority. Still a dick move

Wish in one hand and actually BUY cards and contribute to the hobby in a positive manner in the other and see which fills up first!

Yes deleting asking prices is great for the hobby. Maybe you can convince auction houses and ebay (who are more egregious because they actually have sold prices not asking prices) to delete the sold prices....that will contribute to the hobby in a positive manner...

Im fine with not keeping asking prices on net54....but its not exactly a sin to keep them up..

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I wish i could get asking price on every card i sold. Would be great to point out to a future buyer the 'asking price' i supposively paid and so i need to ask for more because thats how much i have into it.

Supposedly the word "supposably" is in the dictionary. But I have never, and I mean NEVER, seen the word "supposively" written before. Thanks for enlightening me.

[ALR-bishop]

Derek--these may help

http://www.yourdictionary.com/supposively
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=supposively

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Derek--these may help

http://www.yourdictionary.com/supposively
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=supposively

I just learned irregardless is a word due to this thread . A non-standard one, but one nevertheless.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by seablaster

This is 100% spot-on.

By boynton interjecting, he prevents the seller from deciding for themselves whether they want to leave the price listed or not. Why should a third party be making that decision for the seller?

On any quote, you are leaving what was said by the poster forever listed. If you quote a picture of the card, people wil see the Cert number forever though some people like to black out the cert number because they dont want it known. By quoting what someone says, their comments are there forever. So these quotes are preventing the seller themselves of what they want to leave in their post or not. Sometimes you see sellers delete entire threads which they cant do if there is someone quoting what they said.

Who is to decide where to draw the line of what you can quote or not. Your comment basically means we cant quote anything. If leon deletes the quote function then everything is solved, but why would he do that on a public forum.

[FirstYearCards]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

On any quote, you are leaving what was said by the poster forever listed. If you quote a picture of the card, people wil see the Cert number forever though some people like to black out the cert number because they dont want it known. By quoting what someone says, their comments are there forever. So these quotes are preventing the seller themselves of what they want to leave in their post or not. Sometimes you see sellers delete entire threads which they cant do if there is someone quoting what they said.

Who is to decide where to draw the line of what you can quote or not. Your comment basically means we cant quote anything. If leon deletes the quote function then everything is solved, but why would he do that on a public forum.

Pretty sure this answers your last paragraph. The rules decide, Leon enforces.

There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

Pretty sure this answers your last paragraph. The rules decide, Leon enforces.

There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way

It looks from those rules that comments are fine as long as they are not negative. Not sure how saying nice card is negative or quoting anything the seller says. Its not quoting a negative comment from someone else, its a quote of the actual seller. You are also bumping the thread which is a positive thing.

[seablaster]

Uh, try again.

My comment means that you or any other individual who is not involved in the transaction related to a BST post needs to not interject.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by seablaster

Uh, try again.

My comment means that you or any other individual who is not involved in the transaction related to a BST post needs to not interject.

Uh, read the rules. Third parties are clearly allowed to comment on posts. (Hence the rule of not saying anything negative) Plus how would you know if I made an offer or not. I have bought many cards on this site. Id rather have someone post nice card on my listing then pm me a low ball offer.

Heck people have posted VCP pricing (but fail to mention past sales that support my pricing ) on my listings and I never seen you comment about that but someone saying nice card and quoting what the seller actually says you have a problem with.

[FirstYearCards]

There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way.

First two sentences are pretty clear.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way.

[B]First two sentences are pretty clear.

And so is the third sentence. The first sentence establishes the rule. The second sentence defines third party and the last sentence defines interference.

As much as I never thought I would say this, Jake is right here...based on the wording.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way.

First two sentences are pretty clear.

Yes I agree they are very clear and I clearly followed them. If you dont agree, then the sentences arent pretty clear as you think.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Yes I agree they are very clear and I clearly followed them. If you dont agree, then the sentences arent pretty clear as you think.

That all said the system shouldn't be manipulated to show prices if another member doesn't want them...if they don't want prices shown then you need to heed their wishes. That kind of goes within the rules of posting historical pricing or something that can negatively influence a sale. Rule technicalities don't work here. It is sort of like a Judge Judy court. Regardless of some laws, If it makes sense then she agrees and if not she doesn't. Technicalities almost never work in her courtroom. I love her.

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

I'm just asking if the seller clearly removes the price, why does a third party with nothing to do with the transaction feel it's his responsibility to let the price be known?

Originally Posted by seablaster

This is 100% spot-on.

By boynton interjecting, he prevents the seller from deciding for themselves whether they want to leave the price listed or not. Why should a third party be making that decision for the seller?

This Help is known as a Modern Day Tool...
The Definition of "Tool" is Defined by each member who cares.
Either way, the word "Tool" Applies!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by irishdenny

This Help is known as a Modern Day Tool...
The Definition of "Tool" is Defined by each member who cares.
Either way, the word "Tool" Applies!

Tool applies to your comment, but not the sharpest tool in the shed.