PSA "No Prints" / SC 350-460/30

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by greco827

I searched around a bit and couldn’t find this topic, so forgive me if this has been addressed.

PSA Certified T206 “No Prints”… I assume this means T206’s with backs not previously before believed to exist, but wanted to confirm that assumption. It seems the bulk of them are Sweet Caporal 350-460/30, and graded only as Authentic (Altered). In addition, if they are in fact a front/back combination which previously wasn’t verified, wouldn’t the fact that PSA authenticated them now include them in the SC 350-460 series? Rube Manning (Pitching), for example, has been authenticated 4 times by PSA.

Hi Jason

Here is a link for more information regarding these so-called "No-Prints" cards (obviously these cards were printed, but not inserted in cigarette packs from the New York Factory #30).
Check-out Post #181 in this link...... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...237816&page=19

Here is a SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #30 card with the Factory #42 overprint. Exactly 109 subjects (63 of the 350/460 series and 46 of the 460-only series) were overprinted,
since the SWEET CAPORAL cigarette production was being transferred to the Durham, NC Factory #42.

Originally Posted by greco827

Should the 24 players (42 total cards) authenticated by PSA from the SC350-460/30 series lead to the conclusion that factory 30 did in fact produce print group 3 cards as part of that set?

Incidentally,
All the T206's were printed at the American Lithographic Co. in New York and shipped to the various Factory's in the ATC system.. These ATC Factory's did NOT print these cards.


TED Z
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[greco827]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Jason

Here is a link for more information regarding these so-called "No-Prints" cards (obviously these cards were printed, but not inserted in cigarette packs from the New York Factory #30).
Check-out Post #181 in this link...... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...237816&page=19

Here is a SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #30 card with the Factory #42 overprint. Exactly 109 subjects (63 of the 350/460 series and 46 of the 460-only series) were overprinted,
since the SWEET CAPORAL cigarette production was being transferred to the Durham, NC Factory #42.








Incidentally,
All the T206's were printed at the American Lithographic Co. in New York and shipped to the various Factory's in the ATC system.. These ATC Factory's did NOT print these cards.


TED Z
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Ted, thank you. This is very informational, as is the rest of this thread. This leads me to another question however, in which it is theorized that T206's were cut from sheets which had 3 or 4 of the same card printed vertically, explaining the miscuts which contain the name of the same player pictured. If that is the case, and these were all cut from the same sheet, can we assume that there are at least 3 and maybe 4 examples of each of these cards? The Manning (Pitching) has been graded 4 times by PSA, which would lead to the conclusion that sheets were of 132 cards.

[tedzan]

Jason

I think the only fact we can be certain of is that a given T206 subject was double-printed on a sheet. The four Manning's could be the result of multiple sheets.

By the way, welcome to this forum.


TED Z
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[greco827]

Fair enough, and thanks for the welcome! I find all of this very intriguing, almost to the point of being archaeological, which is pretty damn cool.

[Ronnie73]

Hi Jason, So far 120 of these cards have surfaced over the past few years. There are actually 28 different cards known. As far as them all being printed or surviving in equal numbers, maybe but so far it doesn't add up. Individual card quantities range from 1 to 8 for each of the 28 cards. So either there are more out there to equal out the numbers or they have been lost over the years. Otherwise the Lajoie With Bat being a quantity of 1 would make the regular Factory 42 Overprint card of the same, a short printed card. That's why I love the T206 set. There's so much mystery.