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Old 10-19-2017, 10:14 AM
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Al Rosen appeared either in the top row on the center of the sheet (most likely location) or in the top row in the far right corner.

He also appeared in the fourth row either in the top row on the center of the sheet or in the top row far in the far right corner (most likely location).

It is possible that machine damage caused this if the card was in the top row, far right corner AND it is also possible if it was in the center of the sheet. How could it cause damage in the center of the sheet? Because the A and B sheets were printed on one huge sheet on a Lord Balitmore Press that had a built on splitter (a device that cut the big sheet into two "smaller" sheets). Thus this center card would have then been on the top right corner of the smaller sheet.


With those facts stated, I still find the claim inconclusive because the known 1952 Topps sheets show that there were extra wide borders around the edges of the sheet. To get this damage from the pulling machine ... you would have seen much larger damage to the corner of the sheet. Which would have made this very obvious right off the bat ... and presumably would have been quickly corrected.

But I will say, I have seen that corner damage on the Rosen card frequently.
Steve Birmingham probably can shed some light on this for us.

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Old 10-19-2017, 04:21 PM
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Right, perhaps Steve B will weigh in on this. I concur on possible damage to cards on the edge and even in the middle of a sheet, but it seems that the damage claim refers to all cards in the 80-card series, and it's hard to see how that could result.
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I've never heard this, but I do notice those strange corner pulls in the upper right. I have a hoard of one owner 52s with the run 1-80 and I'll pull or post the number that have the pull. I know. IRV Noran has it #40

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Old 10-19-2017, 07:17 PM
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I've never heard this, but I do notice those strange corner pulls in the upper right. I have a hoard of one owner 52s with the run 1-80 and I'll pull or post the number that have the pull. I know. IRV Noran has it #40

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Old 10-19-2017, 08:25 PM
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Irv Noren was located in three spots.

In the third row, last card of the row.

In the fourth row, in the center - last card after the sheets were split.

And in the last row (10th), as the last card of the row and sheet.

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By the way ... all of the cards at the edge of this sheet ended in "0". If there were cards that ended 1-9 with this same blemish it would severly undermine the sheet pulling theory.

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I believe it was the way many were stored over the years that leads to that corner being so frequently damaged. This is not just a 1952 phenomenon but seems to be fairly consistent from year to year.
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