T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

greco827 · #1 10-23-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Good questions Jason. Ted pretty much answered already, but I'd add that Pastorius and Conroy fielding were both also printed with Old Mill backs. I hadn't noticed that those two were tough with Piedmont 350 backs. If they are, that adds an interesting wrinkle to the puzzle.

Thanks Luke. I'm trying to pose intelligent questions, most of which I'm sure have been answered or at leased inquired about at some time or another, but I'm still in the very early phases of learning.

In regards to the Pastorius and Conroy, I focused on them because of their initial inclusion in the Elite 11, back in 2006. Though they have since been excluded for reasons already covered, they are much harder to find in Piedmont 350 than 150 series. Based on the limited number graded by PSA which denote the factory, 39 150's have been graded, but only two 350's. 19.5:1 ratio is pretty high. Again, small sample size, but telling. With Conroy, it's a ratio of almost 8:1, with 37 150's and only four 350's.

Pastorius can be explained away by his August release, but the reason the Conroy may be harder to find seems less obvious.

greco827 · #2 10-23-2017, 01:19 PM

Interestingly, Neither Pastorius nor Conroy have a confimed graded example, at least not from PSA, SGC, or BVG, of an EPDG card for either of these players. t206 resource does list the Pastorius/EPDG as confirmed and the Conroy as possible, but I find this to be noteworthy.

SGC does have a single EPDG Conroy, which is not specified as Fielding or With Bat, and could possibly be the Fielding version, but I find that doubtful. They do both have PSA graded examples of both Old Mill and Sovereign 150 however.

Lots of interesting wrinkles, as this actually contradicts the thought that EPDG was printed earlier than Piedmont 350.

Maybe someone here has EPDG cards of these two they can share?

tedzan · #3 10-23-2017, 06:13 PM

Hey Ryan

Fantastic display of your Tinker run. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I've been searching for his AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 card for many years to complete my AB 460 run (74 cards).
So when the next one shows up there be at least 4 of us contending for it. It should be very interesting.

I enjoyed talking with you at the Philly Show last month.

TED Z
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Luke · #4 10-23-2017, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greco827

Interestingly, Neither Pastorius nor Conroy have a confimed graded example, at least not from PSA, SGC, or BVG, of an EPDG card for either of these players. t206 resource does list the Pastorius/EPDG as confirmed and the Conroy as possible, but I find this to be noteworthy.

SGC does have a single EPDG Conroy, which is not specified as Fielding or With Bat, and could possibly be the Fielding version, but I find that doubtful. They do both have PSA graded examples of both Old Mill and Sovereign 150 however.

Lots of interesting wrinkles, as this actually contradicts the thought that EPDG was printed earlier than Piedmont 350.

Maybe someone here has EPDG cards of these two they can share?

I don't think those two being left off the EPDG print run contradicts anything. Plenty of poses were not printed with EPDG and then later printed with all the other 350 series backs. If they were left off EPDG print runs and then pulled early from P350 production, I think that would just be a coincidence.

Rhotchkiss · #5 10-23-2017, 07:34 PM

Thanks Ted, and great meeting you too! Yes, it appears that tinker AB is quite a hot commodity!

tedzan · #6 10-30-2017, 09:44 PM

Hey guys,

Tougher than the T206 AB 460 card of Tinker (bat off shoulder) is his T215-1 card.

TED Z
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tedzan · #7 11-10-2017, 07:16 PM

* * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * *

........... Two Pennsylvanians ........

I have a few cards which are missing one of the ink passes in the 6-color process of the T206 cards. I know of numerous T206 color error cards, so if you have some
post them here.

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The rightmost Lundgren card is missing the Blue ink pass. This is a very rare occurrence with T206's....since the Blue ink was an intervening application in the 6-color
printing process.

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TED Z
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Roulette44 · #8 11-11-2017, 10:16 AM

Have really enjoyed reading all the great posts in this thread, and a huge kudos to TedZ for all you do to keep the eye candy and knowledge flowing (equally fun from this collector's perspective).

I collected cards (and comics) as a kid but never reached the echelon of T-cards. I quit and sold them when I was 18, wanting money for college-related fun (what a stupid move!). Anyhow, fast forward 15 years and I got back into comic books agressively. Put together the #1 registry set for Superman #1-423, among some other prized possessions. Then, more recently, I caught the card bug again and went straight to the T-206 set as I always wanted any and every card from the set, but especially the Toronto players (hometown as a kid)

And here we are today, where my quest continues....have a set of 522 but working on a fully PSA graded set in 4+. I think I'm 27th or 28th on the registry, but still filling in some holes, too. I know that the registry is not everyone's bag, I just enjoy the hunt and competition, I suppose. I am dumbfounded by the registry's top set, with an average grade of 8....pretty darn close to the highest grade extant on every card!

My goal is to ultimately upgrade to a set of PSA 6-7 (but will probably remain a set of 522....we'll see).

The variety of T206 is wonderful. The different leagues and from two countries, the backs, the poses, and so many epic players who have legacies that will withstand the test of time!

I know this is a lame post without pictures ("PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!") but I promise I'm working on them! Trying to create some group shots of the set, and might have to start posting while holes still remain in the set. But I also don't want to use up too much bandwidth on this tremendous thread with multiples, so I figured better to wait!

Finally, to all our veterans - Thank you for your service!

Please keep all the information coming!

Best
Joey

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