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10-24-2017, 11:11 AM
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Dick Bartell on Pie Traynor:
“He had some deficiencies that you weren’t aware of unless you played next to him. When making a throw to second base he would lob the ball like a shot put instead of throwing it.” Tom C 
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10-24-2017, 11:27 AM
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Additional reading for the misinformed. I particularly like the following:
"That leaves three players in the conversation with Traynor. They were Home Run Baker, Heinie Groh, and Larry Gardner. I prefer Gardner, though reasonable people could disagree with me. I also prefer Groh, and it would take a less reasonable person or less thoughtful analysis to select Traynor over Groh. And Baker? There’s no way a reasonable person could find Traynor and Baker even comparable. Baker was far and away better. To help you make up your mind, I created the below chart of guys ranked by my eqWAR at the same level at their positions as Baker and Traynor at 3B. 3B Home Run Baker Pie Traynor C Gabby Hartnett Rick Ferrell 1B Pete Rose Harry Stovey 2B Bobby Grich Del Pratt SS Luke Appling Dick Bartell LF Goose Goslin Mike Smith CF Richie Ashburn George Van Haltren RF Reggie Jackson Brian Giles To understand and agree with my point, you need not agree that the players above are ranked where I have them. Hell, I don’t know if I agree with my rankings. You only need to believe the player on the left is better than the player on the right." https://homemlb.wordpress.com/2013/1...d-pie-traynor/ Tom C
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