That Babe Ruth guy again...

[Bpm0014]

That Ruth was signed quickly, smoothly, and flowingly.

^^^^ That's not how it works either. One can forge something "quickly, smoothly, and flowingly."

I'm not just throwing out some random opinion. I know Ruth's autograph, and consider myself as good as anyone there is. I don't come on here to argue. I've seen tons of rushed Ruth autographs. Show me another example where he picks up the pen mid-autograph.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I know Ruth's autograph, and consider myself as good as anyone there is. I don't come on here to argue.

I gave you my opinion, Brendan, and I tried to justify it. I'm done.

I'm sure you are "as good as anyone there is." So there is no need to start a pissing contest with me. If you truly "don't come on here to argue," then stop arguing.

Be confident in your opinion, as I am in mine.

[shelly]

Bottom line. If there is the sliest doubt of it being good. Just stay the hell away from it.

By the way. I do agree with Brandon on the e. I have never seen that before.

[RichardSimon]

This one is interesting.
I will only say Brendan has pointed out a very obvious question in the signature.
I just went over every exemplar in my Ruth files and did not find one instance of that "be" combination written like that.
Whoever signed it lifted the pen at the end of the b and then placed an e there.
As Shelly has stated, this one is a pass.

[yanksfan09]

Boy, ....i appreciate everyone's responses so far.

I'm going to try and meet the owner soon and get some close up pictures myself , under some.good lighting hopefully. I thought maybe the be has the little loop, or hook on it that he does on a number of authentic examples. Maybe seeing some really close up pictures of that will help everyone see whatever is going on there more clearly.

Hopefully this week I can get some better pics.

Thanks all

[ATP]

Here's a Ruth example I pulled from a scrapbook several years ago, there were hundreds of autographs in it almost exclusively from the 1930's to early 1940's, but only a handful of sports related ones. Am going to try to see if I can find a better closeup on my old computer. It won't be easy to see in this image, but I am almost positive I made a mental note of it having a pen lift and not the loop on the b-e connection. If I find the closeup I will post that as well

[yanksfan09]

Thanks Jeff would love to see close up.

These are some more different "b-e" variations I found searching the web...

[ATP]

Originally Posted by ATP

Here's a Ruth example I pulled from a scrapbook several years ago, there were hundreds of autographs in it almost exclusively from the 1930's to early 1940's, but only a handful of sports related ones. Am going to try to see if I can find a better closeup on my old computer. It won't be easy to see in this image, but I am almost positive I made a mental note of it having a pen lift and not the loop on the b-e connection. If I find the closeup I will post that as well

Found the closeup...

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by shelly

Bottom line. If there is the sliest doubt of it being good. Just stay the hell away from it.

By the way. I do agree with Brandon on the e. I have never seen that before.

I generally live by this thinking as well. But it's tough to give the right advice to the owner when one like this presents itself in person to a close friends boss/coworker . I'd like to at least point him in the right direction.

This is a tough one.

Hopefully I can see it soon and shed more light on it.