NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-11-2017, 04:21 PM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,949
Default

I honestly didn't even notice the bottom corner until reading Leon's post -- the image is that strong and the card is probably a 4/5 without the missing piece. That being said, it's too big a piece missing to warrant a 2 grade. As a 1 it's really in the eye of the beholder as to what it's worth. Could be worth a 2 and could be worth an A, depending on who's looking at it.

Last edited by calvindog; 11-11-2017 at 04:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-11-2017, 05:53 PM
brianp-beme's Avatar
brianp-beme brianp-beme is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,604
Default

You got it a good price and it is fantastic looking despite the missing corner...who cares how it is graded? Great pickup for a collection, and maybe someday if you upgrade you should still do fine selling it because there are plenty of collectors willing to ignore a problematic corner on such a desirable piece.

Brian

Last edited by brianp-beme; 11-11-2017 at 05:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-11-2017, 06:14 PM
BearBailey BearBailey is offline
Brandon Bailey
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 387
Default

It’s a really neat piece and most importantly you are happy with it, which is more important than what any of us think.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-11-2017, 07:42 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 8,194
Default

Fixed the corner for you...

mathewsoncorner.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-11-2017, 08:01 PM
yanksfan09's Avatar
yanksfan09 yanksfan09 is offline
_Er!ck*L.ew1n_
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 2,039
Default

It's a great looking card and a very tough issue, so I'd be happy to have it either way!

Having said that I think I have a bit of a different take on it.

I've always felt in situations like that you could have a card with normal naturally heavily rounded corners, where essentially you have the same amount of lost card-stock at each corner, but the shape is evenly rounded. In these situations its just considered normal wear and cards like this can grade 1.5-2. but obviously because its more jagged and was torn it's looked at differently by collectors. But when you think about it you could have a more worn card with evenly well rounded corners on all 4 corners , resulting in more % of total card loss and still get the same or slightly higher grade (like 2.5).

I think it's up to the card owner whether they prefer a more evenly worn and rounded card or a less worn card with 3 sharp corners and one damaged one.
__________________
Er1ck.L. ---D381 seeker http://www.flickr.com/photos/30236659@N04/sets/

Last edited by yanksfan09; 11-11-2017 at 08:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-11-2017, 08:04 PM
yanksfan09's Avatar
yanksfan09 yanksfan09 is offline
_Er!ck*L.ew1n_
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 2,039
Default

I also think that you have to give the extra large size cards more leeway in areas like this and compare a corner like this to a small card like a T206 with a similar issue. You need to think what the percentage of missing card stock is. A Ding or tear on a large card may look very large in person but if you take into account the total card stock loss in terms of percentage against a small issue card like a T or E card, the paper loss may not really be that big (percentage wise).
__________________
Er1ck.L. ---D381 seeker http://www.flickr.com/photos/30236659@N04/sets/
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-11-2017, 08:07 PM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,789
Default

I think it presents very well. Great pose of him, and it sounds like it's rare.

I owned a T206 BL460 for years that had a missing corner, but was otherwise presentable. I was happy to own the card, especially due to it's rarity.

Enjoy owning the card, it's very nice.

Last edited by MVSNYC; 11-11-2017 at 08:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-11-2017, 10:40 PM
orly57's Avatar
orly57 orly57 is offline
Orlando Rodriguez
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Miami
Posts: 979
Default

Greg, that card is awesome. Pop 3 psa and pop 5 sgc. There are 8 known copies of this and you own one of them. I can see where the missing corner would bother some if this were say, a t206 Piedmont pop 2,000 (oh, and there are MANY ungraded t206s out there too) but that isn't the case here. Is it a 2? No, but who cares? Personally, I prefer rarity over condition, especially when the condition is fantastic other a missing 1/200th of the card.
Im not sure why a previous poster thinks that collectors choose not to grade NC's in particular, but I would love to hear his logic since NCs have sold at auction (and privately) for huge amounts of money. Not saying there aren't any raw out there, but I will bet there aren't many.

Last edited by orly57; 11-11-2017 at 11:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-11-2017, 11:27 PM
Kawika's Avatar
Kawika Kawika is offline
David McDonald
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: British Siberia
Posts: 2,818
Default

The grade is irrelevant. Great image of Matty. The notched corner is about the last thing you see. In any event with a rare card sometimes you gotta take what you can get.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg TWilkerson Hilltop Pk pc.jpg (74.6 KB, 155 views)
File Type: jpg ! Christies Horner Joe Wood cabinet copy.jpg (75.4 KB, 155 views)
__________________
David McDonald
Greetings and Love to One and All
Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-12-2017, 01:01 PM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,949
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawika View Post
The grade is irrelevant. Great image of Matty. The notched corner is about the last thing you see. In any event with a rare card sometimes you gotta take what you can get.
David, you should sell me that Hilltop Park PC for a price which suggests that 100% of the card is present in the holder.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTT: rough T206 Matty white cap for a Matty portrait or dark cap... seablaster T206 cards B/S/T 0 06-12-2016 04:48 AM
Classic UPS perezfan Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 17 08-06-2013 06:51 PM
Another Classic Bocabirdman Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 02-09-2013 03:20 PM
Ebay t206 raw HOF in mostly poor condition incl. Matty Dark Cap & Matty Portrait, etc classicjay17 Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 06-21-2012 06:30 PM
Wanted: S81 Matty or E92 Matty, or T216, E105 Archive Pre-WWII cards (E, D, M, etc..) B/S/T 5 05-15-2006 05:09 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:50 PM.


ebay GSB