Looking for ID help on the players on this baseball RPPC.....

[bmarlowe1]

It is spring 1910. Numbered from left to right, with back row numbered 1 – 10, middle row numbered 11-19, front row numbered 20-27

1) Dode Paskert
2) Franz Hosp
3) Larry Cheney
4) Tom Downey
5) Swat McCabe
6) ?
7) Rube Benton
8) Mike Mitchell
9) Larry McClean
10) Dick Hoblitzell

11) Fred Beebe
12) Harry Gaspar
13) Jack Rowan
14) Harry Coveleski
15) Clark Griffith
16) Tom Cantwell
17) Tommy Clarke
18) Frank Roth
19) Dick Egan

20) ?
21) Jimmy Doyle (not Alan Storke, this dates the photo to 1910)
22) Bob Bescher
23) Ward Miller
24) Hans Lobert
25) George Suggs
26) ?
27) batboy I guess

[prewarsports]

20 is Roy Castleton, one of only two players I collect in the world so I know his face pretty well.

[Leon]

You guys are good. I wish I got that much help around here

[2dueces]

Wow. Impressive photograph. But more impressive is the knowledge here. Always amazes me.
So as I inch closer to retirement people ask, what happens to all that knowledge when you retire. Young kids don't want to learn or have the patience to learn this business.
What happens when the old timers retire here? Is there a generation coming up willing to carry on this knowledge? To learn all about this hobby and 1900's baseball? I would imagine the average age is far greater than 40ish?

[RUKen]

I believe that #6 is Mike Konnick:

Konnick
1911 Dayton (on the left)

[vthobby]

You guys are incredible! I was trying to do a face match from old photos and the 1910 roster and I realized that I would be the worst crime victim as I can't seem to look at 2 face photos and match anyone!!!!

As said before, Thank you SO much. It appears we have an interesting "mystery" as we are down to only 1 player........#26 (2nd player in from the bottom row right) from Mark's list above.

Guesses would even be appreciated! Thanks again!

Peace, Mike

PS I may have just found another clue and we may have a name now for line 27!!!!I found a passage in "Baseball, The Golden Age" that says (and I abbreviate where necessary)...."The A's employed Zelt a handicapped lad as batboy in 1910. About the same time "Brownie Burke", a midget was in uniform daily with the Reds".

[vthobby]

#21 "could" be Alan Storke as I found this NY Times article:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...659C946196D6CF

This shows that Storke died in 1910 and was with St Louis the previous year (the player in the #21 slot (2nd in from left in front row) is wearing a St Louis sweater) and the article says that Storke was signed by the Reds after 1909.

Jim Doyle was a Rookie with the Reds in 1910 so not sure why he would be wearing a St Louis sweater? Thoughts?

Thanks! Mike

PS I just found a great in depth SABR article on Storke that implies he was with Harvard getting his law degree in early 1910 and working out in Harvard's batting cages so not sure he was ever with the Reds team for a photo.
https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/59a8c452

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by RUKen

I believe that #6 is Mike Konnick:

Konnick
1911 Dayton (on the left)

For sure. The images are not clear but the head shape -chin- ear shape- hairline combination is so distinctive, and he was on the team, so that has to be Konnick.

Also I agree with Rhys on Castleton. I researched this photo (hats on version in Library of Congress) about 10 years ago when the online face reference resources were not nearly as good as now. Thanks guys for filling in some of the blanks.

[bmarlowe1]

That leaves only one missing face (below right), #26.

At left is Wingo Anderson with Nashville in 1911. Center is a guy identified as Wingo Anderson in an RMY photo. This is our guy.

What is interesting is that in Mark Okkonen's "2000 Cups of Coffee" there is a completely different face identified as Wingo Anderson. Maybe just another "Wingo Anderson", I don't know. Also, the baseball-reference "Wingo Anderson' image seems to be yet another person. I don't know the source of their photo.

[Fred]

No there you have it. This is why this bull board is GREAT. I wandered to this thread and was pleasantly surprised. Awesome stuff!