E90-1, The Kraken (AKA The E-Monster) - post your collection progress

brianp-beme · #1 12-04-2017, 12:55 AM

All I can say is I suck. Frank will probably bust a gut laughing after seeing all the changes I have made to the Kraken (because of my foolhardiness) whilst his T206 Monster has been clean and pristine from the get go.

Here is the bad news...I was just about to tally up edhans total and I saw that at some point I accidently removed Cy Young (Cleveland) from my point list. The other Brian (the guy who movitated me to create this thing) pointed out in post #43 that my point total only came up to 244 points, not 250. Why that happened is that when I updated the points I accidentally left off Cy Young (Cleveland) which I valued in my previous point system at 7. Dropping him off essentially left him at a point value of 1, thus creating that 6 point spread.

I subsquentially bumped up the value of Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle to 3 (from 1 point) to get things back to the 250 total value.

Here is our dilemma...what to do. I drop down to my knees and beg your forgiveness, and present two options:

1. Assign the re-instituted Cy Young (Cleveland) a 7 point value, and drop the Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle from 3 points to 1 point, giving us 250 points.

2. Assign the reinstituted Cy Young (Cleveland) a 5 point value, and drop two 3 pointers back to 1 point status, giving us 250 points.

Man I really screwed things up by leaving that Young off...please don't put me on your naughty list this Christmas season, and I will heed any suggestions you might fling my way, including those involving punishment involving a wet noodle.

Brian

AddieJoss · #2 12-04-2017, 07:05 PM

Make Young Cleveland 10 points and call 260 the set. Just a suggestion.
Cory

brianp-beme · #3 12-04-2017, 07:55 PM

Decided against this suggestion because of I just had to.

Brian

brianp-beme · #4 12-04-2017, 08:13 PM

Here is edhans point total, somebody (please!) check my work:

Lacking...

Jackson -20
Keeler (throwing) -3
McLean -3
Miller (no sunset) -1
O'Connor -1
Richie -1
Sheckard -1
Stahl -5
Stovall -1
Wagner (batting) -7
Wagner (throwing) -10
Young (Boston) - 4
Young (Cleveland) -7

250 points minus 64 points equals 186 points. I have updated your E-Monster #

Brian

Steve D · #5 12-04-2017, 08:23 PM

OK, if the only change was to elevate Cy Young (Cleveland) from 1 to 10 points, the total now stands at 259. This is due to there being 85 one-point cards before, instead of 86.

Here's my math (from the op, as revised at 8:20:

1 x 20 = 20
3 x 10 = 30
3 x 7 = 21
6 x 5 = 30
4 x 4 = 16
19 x 3 = 57
85 x 1 = 85
---------------
121 cards
259 points

Steve

Steve D · #6 12-04-2017, 08:04 PM

Right now, as the listing in your original post stands, you have 122 cards, with a total of 255 points. That's one too many cards, and 5 too many points.

Steve

brianp-beme · #7 12-04-2017, 08:48 PM

Dammit! Thanks Steve for making my head burst into a million particles of tiny shame. You are absolutely correct. I officially make you my double-checking right hand man, because the fellow typing this sentence obviously should not be in accounting.

Here is what I have to offer now, which is what I originally came up with but accidentally eliminated Cy Cleve from the list, causing this whirl of blunderbusses. Please note that besides Cy (Cleveland) now being 7 points, I have downgraded Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle from 3 points back to 1 point each.

20 Joe Jackson

10 Tris Speaker
10 Honus Wagner (throwing)

7 Hugh Duffy
7 Mike Mitchell
7 Honus Wagner (batting)
7 Cy Young (Cleveland)

5 Fred Clarke (Pittsburgh)
5 Ty Cobb
5 Willie Keeler (red background)
5 Jake Stahl
5 Bill Sweeney (Boston)
5 Ed Walsh

4 Peaches Graham
4 Christy Mathewson
4 Eddie Plank
4 Cy Young (Boston)

3 Bob Bescher
3 Patsy Dougherty
3 George Gibson (back)
3 Harry Howell (wind up)
3 Ed Karger
3 Willie Keeler (throwing)
3 Addie Joss (throwing)
3 Nap Lajoie
3 Tommy Leach (throwing)
3 Hans Lobert
3 Larry McLean
3 Dots Miller (sunset)
3 Orval Overall
3 Dave Shean
3 George Stone (left hand showing)
3 Jerry Upp

1 each for the rest of the 88 cards

A complete set of 121 would thus be 250 points

And here is a breakdown of each point level:

1 x 20 = 20
2 x 10 = 20
4 x 7 = 28
6 x 5 = 30
4 x 4 = 16
16 x 3 = 48
88 x 1 = 88
---------------
121 cards
250 points

Am I right? If so, let's put me out of my misery.

Brian

brianp-beme · #8 12-04-2017, 09:08 PM

And Brian, please forgive me from making you do extra spreadsheet work...and you will have to recalculate your Kraken # too!

Brian

Steve D · #9 12-04-2017, 09:25 PM

I apologize for causing so much grief Brian.

If it's any consolation, I agree with your calculations in your latest post. I think we can finally set this in concrete

Steve

brianp-beme · #10 12-04-2017, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D

I apologize for causing so much grief Brian.

If it's any consolation, I agree with your calculations in your latest post. I think we can finally set this in concrete

Steve

No apologies needed and thanks Steve...and while we are at it why don't we throw Jimmy Hoffa into the concrete too, but to not mess things up Jimmy will have a 0 point value.

Brian

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