OT: Ohtani to the Angels

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I was pretty excited to hear the news. I even called the Angels box office and discussed ticket packages. Anyone else in the socal area planning to go see him play?

We usually go to Arizona for a week of spring training. Although we always try to catch Trout for a game, this is making Tempe look a lot more tempting. And probably a lot more expensive.

[insidethewrapper]

I don't think Ruth and Gehrig would get 100+ RBI's if nobody was on base either. They were on great teams and you couldn't pitch around them, though they tried with plenty of walks. Not many guys get 100 rbi's. This season only 23 , with only 6 above 110.

[Peter_Spaeth]

He hit .241. His OBP was an abysmal .286. His slugging percentage was a lousy .386. His WAR was negative. He got 100 RBI because there were an abundance of men on base. Any decent hitter in his spot would have done the same.

[insidethewrapper]

Yea, Trout had 123 hits this year. Wow.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Yea, Trout had 123 hits this year. Wow.

And 94 walks.

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He hit .241. His OBP was an abysmal .286. His slugging percentage was a lousy .386. His WAR was negative. He got 100 RBI because there were an abundance of men on base. Any decent hitter in his spot would have done the same.

When I brought up his rbi numbers I looked at the totality of his Angels numbers not just last year. I agree those numbers last year were not very good. But despite the terrible numbers he drove in 100. And you say any decent hitter would do the same and I'm in agreement. My point is that he's not been as bad as people here claim. The Angels signed him to an insane long term contract in an era where guys were producing at high levels well into their late 30's and even early 40's. In reality most guys start regressing at his age when peds are not involved. So while I'll agree he hasn't lived up to his contract he's still been a productive player. The next couple seasons could be rough for him though.

And I'll still stick with 100 rbis being a good accomplishment no matter what else is happening in a season.

Also at least in 2017 his obp was a much better .323 with RISP. If he maintained his season OBP in those situations then he doesn't drive in 100. So yes he is in a better position than most to drive in those runs but at least his production rose to the occasion in those situations. As a Red Sox fan I don't want to hear how bad Pujols was after watching them sign Carl Crawford and Pablo Sandoval. Now those were abysmal contracts!!!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

We usually go to Arizona for a week of spring training. Although we always try to catch Trout for a game, this is making Tempe look a lot more tempting. And probably a lot more expensive.

I've never been to spring training but it sounds like a lot of fun. I'm only a few miles from the Angels stadium so i will have to check out a few regular season games. I have a feeling tickets will be a lot harder to get this year.