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12-10-2017, 01:58 PM
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Very interesting. I'd love to see the card in person. The stamp looks good to me. The cracking on the paper is very suspicious. I'd be interested in Rhett's opinion.
If it's real, it's a tough card, only a handful known, probably the second-most important card in the set next to Ruth. Edited to add: the known fakes are DEFINITELY discernible from the stamp. The ink color is the same, but the typefaces are entirely different. Picture below. -Al Last edited by Al C.risafulli; 12-10-2017 at 02:00 PM. 
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12-10-2017, 02:24 PM
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Pete, that card is a fake.
Here's a real one: 
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12-10-2017, 02:35 PM
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There's a lot of e121 and other fakes that have that same cracking of the paper. If you see that same kind of cracking it's a fake from what I've seen.
These fakes are always a bit more blurry/grainy too.
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12-10-2017, 02:42 PM
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Well, the one I showed had sold in October for under $21 about two weeks after it had been "sold' by the same seller on ebay for $48. Here's one that sold for $7.99, so yes, they have been faked, and yes, the one shown to Pete is fake:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-22-TY-...p2047675.l2557  
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12-10-2017, 03:20 PM
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Yes but that Cobb autograph is a keeper.
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12-10-2017, 04:16 PM
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This issue is very rare and very valuable. We've been through this before but when a card like this is sold raw it's done so for a reason: because it's a fake. Anyone in 2017 selling a real card like this knows about SGC and PSA and would surely get it slabbed if it was possible.
Similar is when experienced sellers try to sell a serious card in a bullshit holder like PRO, ISA, GMA, etc. and claim they don't know if it's trimmed or otherwise altered. It is. Because even the biggest idiot seller knows enough to know that an SGC or PSA slabbed card will exponentially increase their sales price. Refusing to send it into a reputable third party grader can only be for one reason: the card won't grade. Don't let your greed get in the way of your common sense.
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