some more red meat for all the N54 moralists

Exhibitman · #1 01-12-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I love that we just got a Jam reference; well done Adam, great band! It's a crying shame they disbanded as early as they did.

That's for sure, but Paul was burnt out by that point and looking to go more in the blue-eyed soul direction anyway. I couldn't believe that the same guy who did In The City was the guy who did My Ever Changing Moods, but artists evolve. I didn't expect to see Elvis Costello jamming with Burt Bacharach either.

egbeachley · #2 01-12-2018, 04:34 PM

So now it appears as though B never had ownership of the cards. He just facilitated a transaction between S and M with a small fee. Acting as an agent I believe.

Still looks like the brothers made off with the cards and the money. And still looks like M shouldn't have jumped the process because now no charges were filed.

oldjudge · #3 01-12-2018, 04:35 PM

Chris-I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what proper legal protocol is, but I would think that you should make a full refund to M. You should then go to S and get a full refund from him. S should then go to T and get a full refund from him; at this point T is out his purchase price from A's brother and he should sue him for that sum and press charges. At that point, since A supposedly has not pressed charges, he can acknowledge the theft to the police or reimburse T, at which point T would have no further damages and might drop the case.

oldjudge · #4 01-12-2018, 04:37 PM

Eric-I know A. I am fairly certain he had nothing to do with the theft. Also, although it appears that Buckler was effectively a conduit, if M made payment to him I would think legally he had taken ownership and conveyed ownership of the cards (ie he owned them) although such ownership may have been for a minimal amount of time.

egbeachley · #5 01-12-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Eric-I know A. I am fairly certain he had nothing to do with the theft.

To clarify, I wasn't stating that as a deal or agreement on both brothers part. It's just how it ended up.

oldjudge · #6 01-12-2018, 04:53 PM

Eric-You may have meant it differently, but, at least to me, it came off sounding bad. If Brother A had a few beers while watching a ball game at home and Brother B was driving the kids to camp, were Brother A and B drinking and driving?

Peter_Spaeth · #7 01-12-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Eric-You may have meant it differently, but, at least to me, it came off sounding bad. If Brother A had a few beers while watching a ball game at home and Brother B was driving the kids to camp, were Brother A and B drinking and driving?

Right, when Eric said "made off," it sounded like an accusation.

egbeachley · #8 01-12-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Eric-You may have meant it differently, but, at least to me, it came off sounding bad. If Brother A had a few beers while watching a ball game at home and Brother B was driving the kids to camp, were Brother A and B drinking and driving?

You are correct, it did sound like I was accusing A as being an accomplice. That's why I wanted to clarify that's not what I meant.

But, I also understand firsthand the dynamics of family when it comes to these situations. That's why M returning the cards immediately created a situation whereby the brother doesn't suffer any consequences.

autograf · #9 01-12-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by egbeachley

You are correct, it did sound like I was accusing A as being an accomplice. That's why I wanted to clarify that's not what I meant.

But, I also understand firsthand the dynamics of family when it comes to these situations. That's why M returning the cards immediately created a situation whereby the brother doesn't suffer any consequences.

+1. Understand why M did what he did but not prosecuting the brother will never help the situation.

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