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Old 02-17-2018, 06:32 AM
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Default Seeing red

Not sure if I put this one up or not after looking through over half the post to find it I gave up. Here is an interesting one of the red birds.
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:38 AM
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That's a true red bird card. Anyone know if that was a DP card. I have seen one seller pointing out a recuring cropping difference on that and other 61 cards in which there is a spacing difference between the names and team designations, or in this case the names and the title

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Old 02-17-2018, 11:21 AM
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Just picked up this partial red pass on Pete Rose:
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:15 PM
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I am not a graded collector but if a card was otherwise a 10 what deduction would it get for such a print defect, if any ?
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:43 PM
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Kind of a grader's discretion. If they consider it a "print defect", it would get a PSA 9 (PD) and count the same for the registry as a 7. If the submitter requested no qualifiers, it could drop even lower. Or it could stay a 10 if the grader doesn't think it's a print defect.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:59 PM
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Just picked up this partial red pass on Pete Rose:
Funny you posted this Rose with the missing red pass, just the other day I came across this 77 A-ROD (the original) card with what appears to be the same missing pass.

Also found this 68 Cap Patterson with tons of extra blue.....his left arm just blends in with the sky.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:03 PM
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Here is a similar item to the card above only with Cubs. Over printing?
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:35 AM
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The extra "white cloud" above the trees on this 68 Curt Flood card has been noted as a print variation, but until today, I had not noticed that this print variation has variations. The cloud appears to come in various sizes. I wondered if this cloud was similar to the cloud appearing on the 461-492 68 Topps cards. However, the Belanger card to the left of the Flood card does not appear to have a cloud appearing on it's right edge to match the Flood card's cloud.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:33 AM
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Wonder if this defect shows up on any versions of his MB cards. It does not appear on the one in my MB set

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Funny you posted this Rose with the missing red pass, just the other day I came across this 77 A-ROD (the original) card with what appears to be the same missing pass.
I may have officially jumped the printing flaw/variation shark with these, but they are fun and challenging to look for. A recurring print flaw on the 1977 sheet with Robin Yount and Carlton Fisk affected about 48 cards, four vertical rows of 12. I still need examples of Larry Biittner, Charlie Williams, Robin Yount, Bruce Boisclair, Andres Mora, Gaylord Perry, Jim Bibby, Eric Rasmussen, Gary Thomasson, and Ron Hodges.
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Old 02-27-2018, 04:26 AM
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1977 Topps - [Base] #635 - Robin Yount
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This is probably the Yount: item 5109687 because the photo is washed out. Hard to tell on this one because there's not a lot of red in the image. But it sort of looks like the 1962 Green Tints with less definition throughout the image. Do you need the Rose I posted?
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:40 AM
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I may have officially jumped the printing flaw/variation shark with these, but they are fun and challenging to look for. A recurring print flaw on the 1977 sheet with Robin Yount and Carlton Fisk affected about 48 cards, four vertical rows of 12. I still need examples of Larry Biittner, Charlie Williams, Robin Yount, Bruce Boisclair, Andres Mora, Gaylord Perry, Jim Bibby, Eric Rasmussen, Gary Thomasson, and Ron Hodges.
As always, nice work Cliff....I have about 25k 77 commons in my attic I have not touched in 15 years, guess I should take some time and go through them.
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I may have officially jumped the printing flaw/variation shark with these, but they are fun and challenging to look for. A recurring print flaw on the 1977 sheet with Robin Yount and Carlton Fisk affected about 48 cards, four vertical rows of 12. I still need examples of Larry Biittner, Charlie Williams, Robin Yount, Bruce Boisclair, Andres Mora, Gaylord Perry, Jim Bibby, Eric Rasmussen, Gary Thomasson, and Ron Hodges.
The picture of the sheet helps a lot Cliff! I have obtained a couple different versions of the E-Rod for my Dodgers collection over the years.
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The picture of the sheet helps a lot Cliff! I have obtained a couple different versions of the E-Rod for my Dodgers collection over the years.
+1 on the picture helping. I just picked up the Fisk for my Fisk error collection.
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Old 03-31-2018, 11:57 AM
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I may have officially jumped the printing flaw/variation shark with these, but they are fun and challenging to look for. A recurring print flaw on the 1977 sheet with Robin Yount and Carlton Fisk affected about 48 cards, four vertical rows of 12. I still need examples of Larry Biittner, Charlie Williams, Robin Yount, Bruce Boisclair, Andres Mora, Gaylord Perry, Jim Bibby, Eric Rasmussen, Gary Thomasson, and Ron Hodges.
In honor of Rusty's passing, here is another one of the 48 cards from his group, found this one yesterday.
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Default 1952 #313 Thomson

We all know about the stitching on the ball being different directions, but here are some other features about this card.

On the reverse, the ball is touching the left margin on one, but not the other. This is recurring.

On the obverse, there is a yellow top to the fence or whatever is at the left, leading to his cap. The other version does not have this. This also is recurring.

The yellow obverse is on the same card with the version that has the ball touching the margin on the back.I looked on both eBay and COMC and have concluded that this is the way these cards were done. I recall that this, along with Mantle and Robinson, were double printed and thus the differences.
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