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Old 03-12-2018, 09:44 AM
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Thanks to the OP for outing the auction.

Why are there so many auctions being outed lately?
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:58 AM
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Thanks to the OP for outing the auction.

Why are there so many auctions being outed lately?

I get the underlying principle on what you're saying Andrew - but at the same time, this auction listing:

1. Is in the baseball cards category under Sports Mem (not Tobacciana or something else)

2. Has T206 in the title

3. Has Ty Cobb in the title

4. Has 1909-11 in the title

5. Has broad leaf in the title.


I just don't think that in this particular case, especially since it is more likely than not that this is probably fraud of some sort, that this listing needed any help in getting attention. It may have sped up the process by a couple days, but that's all.
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:03 AM
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Why are there so many auctions being outed lately?
This one is an obvious fraud, I can't imagine anyone actually thinking this card is good.
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:36 AM
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This one is an obvious fraud, I can't imagine anyone actually thinking this card is good.

Very true Jeff. I could have found a better example to post the question.


Nate this is very true. Again was not the best auction to post that question
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:50 AM
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Why are there so many auctions being outed lately?
Anytime there is alleged fraud , nobody cares about people informing about it..thats what a forum is for.

I am sure sellers want their cards outed though in general..
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Anytime there is alleged fraud , nobody cares about people informing about it..thats what a forum is for.

I am sure sellers want their cards outed though in general..
please see post #17
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Thanks to the OP for outing the auction.

Why are there so many auctions being outed lately?
If it's a fugazi, it should certainly be discussed on this board. If it's the real McCoy, it should certainly be discussed on this board. A genuine version of this card would be unique. I think this auction is blowing up beyond the seller's dreams-that is if the original intentions were nefarious.

Red flags are all there. The seller has gone from "what you see is what you get...all sales final" to "I WILL GUARANTEE." The story about PSA-I know that PCGS makes those types of recommendations, but why would PSA stop the seller from a direct (albeit pricey) submission? Why would they recommend dragging a third party into what could end up a legal battle?

Maybe Uncle Bob was a crafty SOB and skillfully slapped that card together. The seller passes that buck in the second edit. Maybe Bob got duped by the same one who sandwiched the Edwards' Wagner. Or maybe Bob was looking for rare back/front combos before anyone else in the hobby. We'll never know.
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