Yankees Ticket Dating Guide BOTCHED

[Shoeless Moe]

Bottom line is many tickets as I've shown were slabbed incorrectly due to your initial research. You were told of your errors, didn't believe them either at the time, gave your standard " "handwriting on back of ticket incorrect" or "ticket stapled to incorrect program" until they proved you wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt so you had to fix. You fixed 1923-1928 and then the guide came out. The problem is after 1928 is still incorrect.

So for as much good as you did, you did a lot of harm, thus many are slabbed incorrectly, and will continue to be until you fix it, if you even can at this point. So Google yourself all you want....

.....and use all that free time to fix it.

"Here endeth the lesson" - Sean Connery

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Bottom line is many tickets as I've shown were slabbed incorrectly due to your initial research. You were told of your errors, didn't believe them either at the time, gave your standard " "handwriting on back of ticket incorrect" or "ticket stapled to incorrect program" until they proved you wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt so you had to fix. You fixed 1923-1928 and then the guide came out. The problem is after 1928 is still incorrect.

So for as much good as you did, you did a lot of harm, thus many are slabbed incorrectly, and will continue to be until you fix it, if you even can at this point. So Google yourself all you want....

.....and use all that free time to fix it.

"Here endeth the lesson" - Sean Connery

all those you showed were slabbed prior to Keyman
but you constantly choose to ignore that fact
do every one a favor create and publish your own website with a rebuttal nationally for millions to see
and stop trying influencing a handful of PSA Haters

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by megalimey

all those you showed were slabbed prior to Keyman
but you constantly choose to ignore that fact
do every one a favor create and publish your own website with a rebuttal nationally for millions to see
and stop trying influencing a handful of PSA Haters

um.....pretty sure I posted this one:


https://goldinauctions.com/1923_New_...-LOT23876.aspx

Sold on Aug 14, 2016 at Goldin for $900 as the 4th game ever played at Yankee Stadium. Has your little hologram on it too!

Unfortunately whoever paid $900 for the 4th game ever played at Yankee Stadium got a 4/26/24 ticket (A super valuable Waite Hoyt win ticket worth about $50.)

[bigfanNY]

In the original post you claim the ticket shown is from 1937 because of the scrap of paper attached to it. How do you know without having the entire page that the words even reference that stub. Could have been another stub below the words from a Yanks Indians game.
The stubs from the auctions the guide agrees your conclusion on date. Clearly a PSA problem not a guide problem.
The Ebay program and stub certainly look great paired together but clear evidence says they are not from same game.
No one likes the looks of a program with the stubs scotch taped to the inside but for the most part they offer the best evidence of stubs matching programs.
There was a guy who worked for PSA as their "Number one Ticket Expert" who still does business on Ebay as Buckner who has sold me undated tickets that were not as described as recently as this past year. So I know PSA made mistakes in the past.
But in my opinion none of your arguments against the guide hold water.
Jonathan Sterling

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

In the original post you claim the ticket shown is from 1937 because of the scrap of paper attached to it. How do you know without having the entire page that the words even reference that stub. Could have been another stub below the words from a Yanks Indians game.
The stubs from the auctions the guide agrees your conclusion on date. Clearly a PSA problem not a guide problem.
The Ebay program and stub certainly look great paired together but clear evidence says they are not from same game.
No one likes the looks of a program with the stubs scotch taped to the inside but for the most part they offer the best evidence of stubs matching programs.
There was a guy who worked for PSA as their "Number one Ticket Expert" who still does business on Ebay as Buckner who has sold me undated tickets that were not as described as recently as this past year. So I know PSA made mistakes in the past.
But in my opinion none of your arguments against the guide hold water.
Jonathan Sterling

excellent Summation , I believe the Guide is the most informative thing to come up relating to Undated Yankees tickets ever , and any future Yankee ticket buyers should feel 100% confident that the General Consensus is this is the Guide to go by, 1000's agree including PSA, SGC, Baseball Hall Of Fame SMR Guide and All Big auctions Houses when submitting tickets , verses the handful sorry thats an underestimate its more like a dozen people that do not accept its correct ,

[batsballsbases]

Hi David,
I wanted to ask a question this has nothing to do with what people think is right or wrong, I posed this question to Pat 3 years ago maybe now that its been awhile you can answer it. I have these tickets and have had them for many years. A long story but my father was connected with food vending at yankee stadium and we were there often . I went to mickey mantle day as my father had business there myself and my brother were allowed all over the stadium.. I was running around in the bleachers and started to pick up ticket stubs as an 11 year old would. I have my ticket and program for mantle day but as we know these bleacher tickets arenot dated... Looking at the keyman list it says that F tickets are possibly from mantle day. I can tell you for a fact I picked these up that day. Im 60 now but remember it like yesterday. Look at the tickets and you tell me am I correct? Are they from mantle day? Thanks in advance here is my ticket from that day also....

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Hi David,
I wanted to ask a question this has nothing to do with what people think is right or wrong, I posed this question to Pat 3 years ago maybe now that its been awhile you can answer it. I have these tickets and have had them for many years. A long story but my father was connected with food vending at yankee stadium and we were there often . I went to mickey mantle day as my father had business there myself and my brother were allowed all over the stadium.. I was running around in the bleachers and started to pick up ticket stubs as an 11 year old would. I have my ticket and program for mantle day but as we know these bleacher tickets arenot dated... Looking at the keyman list it says that F tickets are possibly from mantle day. I can tell you for a fact I picked these up that day. Im 60 now but remember it like yesterday. Look at the tickets and you tell me am I correct? Are they from mantle day? Thanks in advance here is my ticket from that day also....

this was the highest attended Game for over 6 years with capped max attendance of 60,000 in Yankee Stadium at that time , however there were
60,096 actual paid patrons , these tickets would have been the over flow as they would have run out of the Bleacher and Grandstand section tickets
most likley standing room or squeezed into the bleachers which just long benches , The Letter A and the pricing tells me all I need to know confirming what you already know these are Mickey Mantle Day
I will now be able to Clarify the finding , thanks for sharing these images
and can you remember it being standing room only especially being a single admission double header and being bunched in like sardines

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by megalimey

this was the highest attended Game for over 6 years with capped max attendance of 60,000 in Yankee Stadium at that time , however there were
60,096 actual paid patrons , these tickets would have been the over flow as they would have run out of the Bleacher and Grandstand section tickets
most likley standing room or squeezed into the bleachers which just long benches , The Letter A and the pricing tells me all I need to know confirming what you already know these are Mickey Mantle Day
I will now be able to Clarify the finding , thanks for sharing these images
and can you remember it being standing room only especially being a single admission double header and being bunched in like sardines

David,
I do remember it was packed! We stayed way longer after the games were over as my father had business there. That is why I guess we were able to pick up so many stubs and in those days everyone just threw them on the ground.. Al

[Sophiedog]

Why would anyone who is providing his research to help collectors be responsible for PSA slabbing the tickets wrong? PSA should be doing their own research.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by megalimey

this was the highest attended Game for over 6 years with capped max attendance of 60,000 in Yankee Stadium at that time , however there were
60,096 actual paid patrons , these tickets would have been the over flow as they would have run out of the Bleacher and Grandstand section tickets
most likley standing room or squeezed into the bleachers which just long benches , The Letter A and the pricing tells me all I need to know confirming what you already know these are Mickey Mantle Day
I will now be able to Clarify the finding , thanks for sharing these images
and can you remember it being standing room only especially being a single admission double header and being bunched in like sardines

David,
I also had these tickets which I also believe were from Mantle Day only picked up 2 of these guys. Just wondered if you have seen these type of tickets.

[Shoeless Moe]

I know the guide is botched, David knows it (but can't/won't) admit it, and Jonathan I'd guess you might be the owner of some of these tickets that if they were identified correctly would sink like a stone in value so you don't want to believe it.

Here's a few more, but I guess people who attended the games wrote the wrong date they attended off by a few years, yah that always happens when I write the date on something.

Here's a "1948" with a 1949 date written on it and a "1940" with a 1942 date on it.

Examples pop up all the time on Ebay and David will say oh that program doesn't go with that ticket even if its stapled or taped inside of it, or writing is on it, he's will never admit there could be (translated: there is) a flaw in his system. The only years that are correct again are 1923-1928, after that good luck. I'm done, believe what you want.

[bigfanNY]

Shoeless Again you are incorrect I do not own any undated Yankee Tickets right now. I have never sent an undated Yankee ticket to PSA. I have no horse in this race. You are simply wrong.
As for your most recent "evidence" that the guide is botched in 1948 Topping took over and that first year Tickets started again with A. Makes perfect sense to me. Can you please post what you think 1948 yankee grandstand tickets look like.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by megalimey

...can you remember it being standing room only especially being a single admission double header and being bunched in like sardines

I was there on an SRO ticket.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I was there on an SRO ticket.

cool , did you ever keep the ticket ?? would love an image front and back

[David Atkatz]

Sorry. I lost that stub long ago.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by megalimey

cool , did you ever keep the ticket ?? would love an image front and back

David,
In post 49 I posted 2 tickets SRO that I believe were from that game. I was there also Like David and I believe I picked these up also that day. Check them out and tell me what you think.... Hey David A. maybe one of these was yours!