1948 Leaf Satchel Paige - blank back - on eBay....

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Scocs

I just don’t understand why the card went from $30,000 to $100,000 in the middle of the auction. That seems disingenuous...

I am calling BS on the seller. The higher bidders on all his higher $ cards have several bid retractions each. Just enough to stay under and not draw attention. He also has canceled transactions after auctions closed and relisted for a higher price. This is just since the thread started and he found out what he really has. The 52 Bowman Mantle is a grade 3 at best and somehow is selling in the 4-5 range ungraded? 51 Bowman Mays sells for nearly 2K more than the other one he had just sold a few days before the thread in the same condition. I do not think this guy is honest and I think he is or people he knows is shilling for him. Crucify me if you want guys but I think digging through completed listings and feedback has told me enough to stay away

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I am calling BS on the seller. The higher bidders on all his higher $ cards have several bid retractions each. Just enough to stay under and not draw attention. He also has canceled transactions after auctions closed and relisted for a higher price. This is just since the thread started and he found out what he really has. The 52 Bowman Mantle is a grade 3 at best and somehow is selling in the 4-5 range ungraded? 51 Bowman Mays sells for nearly 2K more than the other one he had just sold a few days before the thread in the same condition. I do not think this guy is honest and I think he is or people he knows is shilling for him. Crucify me if you want guys but I think digging through completed listings and feedback has told me enough to stay away

Makes sense. I don't care how "old skool" you are. If you want to get the best return on a high $ card, you're gonna get it graded

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I am calling BS on the seller. The higher bidders on all his higher $ cards have several bid retractions each. Just enough to stay under and not draw attention. He also has canceled transactions after auctions closed and relisted for a higher price. This is just since the thread started and he found out what he really has. The 52 Bowman Mantle is a grade 3 at best and somehow is selling in the 4-5 range ungraded? 51 Bowman Mays sells for nearly 2K more than the other one he had just sold a few days before the thread in the same condition. I do not think this guy is honest and I think he is or people he knows is shilling for him. Crucify me if you want guys but I think digging through completed listings and feedback has told me enough to stay away

This is my impression as well from the sold listings and his responses, without looking up bid or retraction history. Something seems off.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

This is my impression as well from the sold listings and his responses, without looking up bid or retraction history. Something seems off.

There were a lot of bid retractions on a few things I saw but I think the story on these is correct. If some of the cards were in the 6+ range, technically, then money could have been left on the table. Like I think I said, I was outbid (my snipe didn't take) on 1 of the cards.

[T205 GB]

The last Mays card that I watched ended about 2K lower. I would say the last card is just a tad rougher but not $2000 less rougher.

I have no doubt about the sellers backstory. Never brought that into question for the record.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

There were a lot of bid retractions on a few things I saw but I think the story on these is correct. If some of the cards were in the 6+ range, technically, then money could have been left on the table. Like I think I said, I was outbid (my snipe didn't take) on 1 of the cards.

You may be right but I haven't changed my opinion. The other comments regarding bid retractions don't surprise me. I will be staying away from this seller. Best of luck to anyone who decides to take a shot.

[Peter_Spaeth]

a***u(3402) seems to be bidding on most or all of his cards both FB and BB.

[Meenman]

You are slandering my business, name and reputation. That is against the law. Bring your evidence that I am shill bidding or stop slandering my name. There is no evidence because there is nothing shady going on.
If you do not stop I will take legal actions against you. I don't know anyone bidding on my items or have any control of how the bid. You are accusing me and my customers on flimsy evidence made up in your own mind. I run an honest business. Stop you have no right to slander me.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Meenman

You are slandering my business, name and reputation. That is against the law. Bring your evidence that I am shill bidding or stop slandering my name. There is no evidence because there is nothing shady going on.
If you do not stop I will take legal actions against you. I don't know anyone bidding on my items or have any control of how the bid. You are accusing me and my customers on flimsy evidence made up in your own mind. I run an honest business. Stop you have no right to slander me.

Block the bid retractor. I block ALL of mine. That one simple act could save you a ton. Unless of course, there is something nefarious going on.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Meenman

You are slandering my business, name and reputation. That is against the law. Bring your evidence that I am shill bidding or stop slandering my name. There is no evidence because there is nothing shady going on.
If you do not stop I will take legal actions against you. I don't know anyone bidding on my items or have any control of how the bid. You are accusing me and my customers on flimsy evidence made up in your own mind. I run an honest business. Stop you have no right to slander me.

How could anyone slander your name when it's not been exposed yet, Aun.dra STU.BBS. There is a rule concerning names and it's at the top of every page. To me it also looks like you have some shady bidders. No need to sue, it's the truth.