The 2018 Dinger Whiff Derby Winner - Jose Ramirez 76

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Currently with 18 pitching strike outs and 1 HR allowed, Ohtani has a PDW number (Pitching Dinger Whiff number) of 14. Combined with his BDW number would give him an overall Dinger Whiff number of 19.

As mentioned though in the modern game Pitching DWs tend to be strongly positive and Batting DWs tend to be strongly negative. Combining the two for an individual player is not fair, since Ohtani is the only player who would benefit. However as the season progresses, a pitching DW number list may be added.

There isn't that much variation in how many HRs pitchers give up I don't think so it's not all that meaningful in my opinion, just going to tell you who the strikeout leaders are for the most part.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There isn't that much variation in how many HRs pitchers give up I don't think so it's not all that meaningful in my opinion, just going to tell you who the strikeout leaders are for the most part.

Your words would comfort Robin Roberts, who yielded 505 dingers, leading the league four years in a row.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Make a list of the top 10 all time in Ks and dinger/whiffs. I bet they are quite close. Which would not be true at all for batters comparing HRs to dinger/whiffs.

[frankbmd]

Where’s my fly swatter?

[frankbmd]

Not Stanton
Not Judge
Just Didi

And a shout out to Cespedes with his 39 whiffs so far.

[gopherfan]

Miguel Sano has 5 HR and 35 K's. Tied with Stanton, and only 4 behind Cespedes.

[frankbmd]

Some impressive Whiff totals in April this year. Someone is sure to crack 200.

But who had between 11 and 18 whiffs in each of 15 consecutive seasons and over 10,000 plate appearances to boot?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Make a list of the top 10 all time in Ks and dinger/whiffs. I bet they are quite close. Which would not be true at all for batters comparing HRs to dinger/whiffs.

Blyleven is very high on career K and HR allowed lists Bet his dinger whiff ranking is considerably worse than his K ranking

EDIT: His DW is under 2k

EDIT #2: Blyleven is 5th on all time K list

4th is Carlton with a DW of 2480

6th is Seaver with a DW of 2120

So Blyleven at least moves down some from his K ranking

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Blyleven is very high on career K and HR allowed lists Bet his dinger whiff ranking is considerably worse than his K ranking

EDIT: His DW is under 2k

EDIT #2: Blyleven is 5th on all time K list

4th is Carlton with a DW of 2480

6th is Seaver with a DW of 2120

So Blyleven at least moves down some from his K ranking

Remember that Dinger Whiff is a zero sum game for pitchers and batters.

For every Moncado out there, there is a pitcher with a healthy Dinger Whiff Number.

[Peter_Spaeth]

LOL in 1986 Blyleven gave up 50 HR that's insane. His previous high was 24. And just to prove it wasn't a fluke he gave up 46 more in 1987. I like him well enough but I think the sabremetrics overrate him, no way IMO is he the 16th best pitcher of all time which is what Baseball Reference ranks him.

[frankbmd]

The season is over.

Jose Ramirez (39 HRs and 80 Ks) has a Dinger Whiff number of +76 so Jose wins the 2018 Dinger Whiff Crown.

Aaron Judge found out a fool proof way to avoid 200 whiffs this year by sitting out quite a few games (~40) in August and September. Stanton, however, will reach the over 200 plateau and remains in a close battle with Moncada for the league lead. Currently Stanton leads Moncada by one, 199 to 198.

Of course Aaron's HR total suffered as well with a mere 26 currently. You be the Judge. Recreation of the Yankee Maris/Mantle HR Derby of 1961 did not materialize with the addition of Stanton to Judge in the lineup.

Since there will be no Net54 winner in the inaugural Dinger Whiff Derby, its future for next season looks bleak. Don't despair though for the Rbioty Lottery is just around the corner.