Mastro Auctions: Looking for Former Employees

mantlefan · #1 05-05-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I am not defending what he, or the others, did. It was wrong. I have already told him what I thought as we spoke at the last National. I stated my other thoughts above. Say what you want to, it's America.

So, you�re allowed to sit down and talk to him and tell him what you thought, but I can�t? I should �leave it alone�. And 30-40 other victims also don�t have that right? Wait and see dude.

Leon · #2 05-05-2018, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mantlefan

So, you�re allowed to sit down and talk to him and tell him what you thought, but I can�t? I should �leave it alone�. And 30-40 other victims also don�t have that right? Wait and see dude.

As far as I know everyone has a right to do what they want to do.
I had written a different message in the other post then edited it to be nicer. Nice is always good

"Leave it alone" sounded better than what I had said originally.
That said, I could care less if you speak with Mark or not. I don't need to wait as there is nothing to see. Happy collecting.

mq711 · #3 05-05-2018, 08:17 AM

Makes me wonder if he wasn't "rewarded" with a job for being a good boy and not naming names as he went to jail.

Stonepony · #4 05-05-2018, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mq711

Makes me wonder if he wasn't "rewarded" with a job for being a good boy and not naming names as he went to jail.

That's a pretty strong statement
Probably warrants a full name by your post

slipk1068 · #5 05-05-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mq711

Makes me wonder if he wasn't "rewarded" with a job for being a good boy and not naming names as he went to jail.

Indeed. I also suspect many of his defenders were involved in shilling their own auctions. It is tough to slam someone who was your partner in crime.

It is also possible that the auction records that went missing were chosen to protect certain people. That would be pretty good leverage to make sure someone doesn't testify against you or speak negatively of you. It would be amazing to see those missing auction records.

Leon · #6 05-05-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068

Indeed. I also suspect many of his defenders were involved in shilling their own auctions. It is tough to slam someone who was your partner in crime.

It is also possible that the auction records that went missing were chosen to protect certain people. That would be pretty good leverage to make sure someone doesn't testify against you or speak negatively of you. It would be amazing to see those missing auction records.

How about starting your post with "once upon a time?"
I for one wasn't involved in anything except getting ripped off too, so the facts show (of which were recovered of course). Back then I didn't sell much at all.
Maybe those missing records would show your involvement? Who knows but to say people shilled because they have an opinion is quite speculative at best. I know I didn't shill...

ps..>Dave B., above, got ya' covered.

mantlefan · #7 05-06-2018, 08:03 AM

I’m so very happy you didn’t lose a dime, Leon. But I did, so your admonition to “leave it alone” is all the more inappropriate.

Leon · #8 05-06-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mantlefan

I’m so very happy you didn’t lose a dime, Leon. But I did, so your admonition to “leave it alone” is all the more inappropriate.

Apparently you either can't read or can't comprehend the American language? Who said I didn't lose a dime? I was shilled at least 3x according to the report. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you stick your foot in your mouth again?

jerrys · #9 05-06-2018, 09:55 AM

$1200 is much more than a dime. D381, E137 and SF Seals are more expensive than one would think.

Eric - You are right - I've listened to others stating that there were errors made. But I do not imagine 100% accuracy, it is rather their stated goal.

The case of fouled up calculations of shill bids is foreign to me. Where are these facts posted?

mantlefan · #10 05-06-2018, 11:08 AM

I stand corrected. You said “I wasn’t involved.....except for getting ripped off”. My bad. I only saw the first part. I apologize.
I’m having Surgery on Monday to remove my foot from my mouth. When you had that surgery, did it hurt?

Your bad: telling me to stand down when you already sought him out in Chicago and addressed your concerns with him. Sometimes silence is golden.

calvindog · #11 05-06-2018, 11:18 AM

Huge amount of misinformation in this thread about the Mastro case, the participants in the fraud, restitution, etc. The stated amount of loss was a fraction of what truly occurred due in part to very conservative calculations by the feds and the fact that Mastro destroyed so many years of records -- solely to hide their crimes.

Here's two things you all need to read:

Mastro shill bidding list: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/wp-cont...l-bid-list.pdf

Mastro, et al. indictment: https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao...pr0725_01a.pdf

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