Jeter SP Foil auction

Peter_Spaeth · #1 05-13-2018, 01:20 PM

For anyone who believes in the "10" I encourage you -- no I double dog dare you -- to do the following experiment. Take 20 PSA 10s of cards of significant value, crack them out, resubmit them (yourself, not through 4SC), and report back what you get. Go on.

Dpeck100 · #2 05-13-2018, 02:12 PM

I have loads of self submitted 10's that you could send in time and time again and get a 10.

This is not an exactly tough set but it is pretty obvious this card is a 10.

Dpeck100 · #3 05-13-2018, 02:18 PM

What gets lost in the shuffle is some collectors like 10's because many are incredibly aesthetically pleasing to the eye with no wear and perfect centering.

I like them for numerous reasons. I love to collect nice looking cards, they are dramatically better than any other grade for investment purposes, I have active registry sets, I like to uncover raw cards that are beautiful, I can say I have the only copy or one of just a few copies to ever grade that high, huge bank for your buck if you submit them yourself, and on and on.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 05-13-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

What gets lost in the shuffle is some collectors like 10's because many are incredibly aesthetically pleasing to the eye with no wear and perfect centering.

I like them for numerous reasons. I love to collect nice looking cards, they are dramatically better than any other grade for investment purposes, I have active registry sets, I like to uncover raw cards that are beautiful, I can say I have the only copy or one of just a few copies to ever grade that high, huge bank for your buck if you submit them yourself, and on and on.

I agree with you on the investment, no question. Where we disagree is whether in terms of the actual card, there is a clear differentiation between a 9 and a 10. From what I have seen in decades of doing this, frequently not. Many many 10s are bumped 9s.

Dpeck100 · #5 05-13-2018, 02:29 PM

That is where it gets blurry. You are right about that bump game. The most expensive card I have ever purchased was a 9 first.

I think some of that can be chalked up to erring on the side of conservatism and card grading isn�t a perfect science. I was naive to that when I first embraced it.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-13-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

That is where it gets blurry. You are right about that bump game. The most expensive card I have ever purchased was a 9 first.

I think some of that can be chalked up to erring on the side of conservatism and card grading isn’t a perfect science. I was naive to that when I first embraced it.

So was it that much better a card in a 10 flip? To me that's where it gets absurd. And don't even get me going on the celebrity bump thing.

Dpeck100 · #7 05-13-2018, 02:33 PM

Most wrestling cards are cheap and there is real risk from a monetary stand point to not grade a 10.

You get very picky on certain cards when this is the case and if it looks closer to a 9 I take it out of the stack.

I obviously don�t have a 1000 percent average but have done quite well at it.

Dpeck100 · #8 05-13-2018, 02:35 PM

It is better than the two PSA 9�s that exist. I own both.

I saw it raw in a text and thought it was a 10.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 05-13-2018, 02:19 PM

I have a number of 9s that look like 10s. And probably some percentage would be on resubmission. And probably some of my 10s would get 9s. The guy I knew made a good part of his living getting 9s bumped to 10s. Jordan rookies and the like. It was essentially a numbers game.

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