Trivia - Don’t Cheat

[Sean]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I dare say this type of performance will never be duplicated with today’s game, nor will Marichal and Koufax going head to head for 15 innings without relief.

Didn't Marichal and Spahn pitch 16 innings against one another in the early '60s?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Sean

Didn't Marichal and Spahn pitch 16 innings against one another in the early '60s?

Indeed, with the following pitch counts

Marichal 227
Spahn 201

That game was not all that remarkable at the time according to Cepeda.

Years later Marichal commented on pitch counts, claiming his arm was strong because he threw a lot of pitches. He also noted and rightly so that far fewer pitchers were on the DL in his era, than there are currently.

Spahn had 382 complete games in 21 years.

[barrysloate]

Something is wrong with the game today, when starting pitchers go five or six innings every fifth day and still end up needing Tommy John surgery.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I have always wondered why no down and out team doesn't give Mike Marshall's theories a chance.

[Mountaineer1999]

Radbourne threw 678 innings in '84 but his arm almost fell off.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

Radbourne threw 678 innings in '84 but his arm almost fell off.

Well, gee. The argument is?

The amount of innings a pitcher can pitch is approaching zero.

I guess we are headed for major league tee ball in 10-15 years.

[Mountaineer1999]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Well, gee. The argument is?

The amount of innings a pitcher can pitch is approaching zero.

I guess we are headed for major league tee ball in 10-15 years.

The argument is, no one really knows what's right. I certainly dont pretend to know more than the guys actually playing the game. For every Spahn or Carlton or Ryan you select off the top there are probably 50 college and minor league players who destroyed their arms. Heck maybe Koufax could have played five more years if he hadn't pitched 300+ innings while in pain. Could Mark Fydrich have had a career if they would have handled him differently? Plus have you seen the arms coming out of bullpens lately? Its generally an upgrade to get a tired starter out of the game.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Something is wrong with the game today, when starting pitchers go five or six innings every fifth day and still end up needing Tommy John surgery.

Hurt their elbows lugging around those wallets.