Heritage auctions a joke

sflayank · #1 05-31-2018, 04:31 PM

1st of all the thread is for information purposes only
Those who cant read or understand shouldnt respond
Everyone knows theres a 20 % buyers premium...duh
Show me where it says
Sorry but we need to make money on postage and charge tax on it
Either way not the point
Point is now everyone is aware of the fact...period
To the person who thinks their website is good...congrats...youre a unique person

RedsFan1941 · #2 05-31-2018, 04:38 PM

i think you are the last person who should criticize people who don't "read or understand"

sflayank · #3 05-31-2018, 04:52 PM

So based on the last few posts
Their postage charge is just random
Hmmmm

RedsFan1941 · #4 05-31-2018, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank

So based on the last few posts
Their postage charge is just random
Hmmmm

thank you for making my point: i think you are the last person who should criticize people who don't "read or understand"

Fballguy · #5 05-31-2018, 05:06 PM

All that being said...lo and behold...I receive shipping confirmation from Heritage today. Finally...only 10 days after Paypal payment.

Coincidence I'm sure.

sflayank · #6 05-31-2018, 05:11 PM

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My generation learned how to read
2 cards $72+ $8postage
1 card $50+ $10 postage
1 card $65 $13 postage
Seems pretty random to me
Closed conversation...

CW · #7 05-31-2018, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank

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My generation learned how to read
2 cards $72+ $8postage
1 card $50+ $10 postage
1 card $65 $13 postage
Seems pretty random to me
Closed conversation...

I can't say for certain, but if they use FedEx for delivery the cost can be based on distance from shipping point to destination. That might explain the variations in shipping charges.

Kenny Cole · #8 05-31-2018, 08:26 PM

As the saying goes, vote with your feet. If you don't like the situation, don't bid with them. That's the decision I made, although it wasn't based on shipping charges. Pretty easy and I don't regret it at all.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 05-31-2018, 04:53 PM

In a hobby rife with fraud of all sorts, including rampant card alteration, nothing seems to get people going like shipping charges.

Federal jury finds an elite hobby figure fraudulently manipulated the market? Yawn. Heritage overcharges a few bucks for shipping? Earthquake!!!!!

markf31 · #10 05-31-2018, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank

Point is now everyone is aware of the fact...period

Yes, now we are all aware of the fact that you either didn't read, or didn't understand, or chose to ignore the user agreement that you explicitly agreed to by registering and then bidding with Heritage. Got it.

BeanTown · #11 05-31-2018, 05:24 PM

To the OP, did you win anything from Christies? Would like to hear your thoughts about their shipping charges. I completely agree with Jay that Heritages website is really good. It takes little time to figure out how to navigate it, and once you do.... You will agree its pretty darn good.

slipk1068 · #12 05-31-2018, 05:56 PM

What kills me is AH's that charge 10% sellers premium on top of a 20% BP. What entitles these people to 30% of my collection?

Defenders are going to come up with all sorts of reasons why this is acceptable as well as negotiable, but I still say it is wrong. When I am ready to sell, I will shop my collection as if it is worth 1K, and consign everything to a big AH that doesn't gouge the little guy.

Exhibitman · #13 05-31-2018, 05:58 PM

David, as you say, it is negotiable. I cannot recall the last time I paid a commission/sellers premium/whatever you call it. There is an AH that will work with most any consignment. You just may not get REA or Heritage interested.

As for why they deserve to get paid, well, selling is a heck of a lot of work. All you ever see is the end product. Someone has to market and get the consignments, take photos, write copy, create the web site, load the images and copy, set pricing, collect funds, account for funds, remit to the appropriate persons, pack and ship orders, handle customer service, run the back office parts of the business, etc.

sb1 · #14 05-31-2018, 06:09 PM

There are other options out there.

In a perfect world the AH would charge no consignors fee, a very low buyers fee(say 12 1/2%) charge at or near actual shipping plus insurance(often less than actual) AND pay consignors two weeks after the auction ends.

If you would like to find this AH, PM me and I can hook you up!

Scott

p.s. my current auction ends Saturday June 2nd.

www.brockelmanauctions.com

Aquarian Sports Cards · #15 05-31-2018, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1

There are other options out there.

In a perfect world the AH would charge no consignors fee, a very low buyers fee(say 12 1/2%) charge at or near actual shipping plus insurance(often less than actual) AND pay consignors two weeks after the auction ends.

If you would like to find this AH, PM me and I can hook you up!

Scott

p.s. my current auction ends Saturday June 2nd.

www.brockelmanauctions.com

Still don't know how you do it. My Parsippany auction is $6 flat consignor's fee per lot ($3 for N54 members) and 10% BP for live cash bidders, 13% for live cc bidders and 18% for absentee.

The Other Scott

P.S. We have an auction Tuesday. Since we're plugging

oldjudge · #16 05-31-2018, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1

There are other options out there.

In a perfect world the AH would charge no consignors fee, a very low buyers fee(say 12 1/2%) charge at or near actual shipping plus insurance(often less than actual) AND pay consignors two weeks after the auction ends.

If you would like to find this AH, PM me and I can hook you up!

Scott

p.s. my current auction ends Saturday June 2nd.

www.brockelmanauctions.com

Scott--That can't be. It's too good to be true. Certainly only a mad man would dream of such a thing.

Peter_Spaeth · #17 05-31-2018, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipk1068

What kills me is AH's that charge 10% sellers premium on top of a 20% BP. What entitles these people to 30% of my collection?

Defenders are going to come up with all sorts of reasons why this is acceptable as well as negotiable, but I still say it is wrong. When I am ready to sell, I will shop my collection as if it is worth 1K, and consign everything to a big AH that doesn't gouge the little guy.

Nothing entitles anyone to anything. There is no coercion, only voluntary private contracts. If you don't want to consign, don't, it's that simple. Shop for a better rate. Or sell yourself.

barrysloate · #18 05-31-2018, 06:17 PM

None of the fees are hidden so do a few quick calculations before you bid. Yes, Heritage can be a bit pricey and I think you do a little better bidding on higher value items with them. If you win a $75 card you will probably get hit with some higher costs.

I have no problem with Heritage charging sales tax because it is the law and they have to. And they are not keeping one penny of it, as all they collect goes to the government. My only issue is it is hard for me to be competitive when another bidder is free of the sales tax obligation. He has a nearly one increment advantage over me so it makes it more difficult to win something.

So I prefer bidding with an auction house that doesn't need to charge me the tax. But I don't begrudge those who do, and I calculate everything before I bid. If you think a company charges you too much, find another to do business with. There is no shortage of auction houses.

Exhibitman · #19 05-31-2018, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate

None of the fees are hidden so do a few quick calculations before you bid. Yes, Heritage can be a bit pricey and I think you do a little better bidding on higher value items with them. If you win a $75 card you will probably get hit with some higher costs.

I have no problem with Heritage charging sales tax because it is the law and they have to. And they are not keeping one penny of it, as all they collect goes to the government. My only issue is it is hard for me to be competitive when another bidder is free of the sales tax obligation. He has a nearly one increment advantage over me so it makes it more difficult to win something.

So I prefer bidding with an auction house that doesn't need to charge me the tax. But I don't begrudge those who do, and I calculate everything before I bid. If you think a company charges you too much, find another to do business with. There is no shortage of auction houses.

Barry, we go through this same discussion every few months here. If you aren�t being charged sales tax you are obliged to pay use tax which is the same exact tax but remitted by the buyer. Either way you are supposed to pay.

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