PWCC-PQ (premium quality)

MattyC · #1 06-01-2018, 10:24 PM

Wait, Pete: they are grading the �eye appeal�� not the card, LOL.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-01-2018, 10:33 PM

Is there a PWCC app yet? One that shows you only PWCC cards?

bobbyw8469 · #3 06-02-2018, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there a PWCC app yet? One that shows you only PWCC cards?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......we can make this happen!

Republicaninmass · #4 06-02-2018, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......we can make this happen!

Dont give them any ideas!

vintagetoppsguy · #5 06-02-2018, 07:09 AM

I think I'm going to try and cash in on this idea too. I'm going to have my own high-end sticker/certification. I think I will use a yellow label.

It's going to be called Super High-end Illustrious Top Tier Yellow or SHITTY for short. Before you know it, everyone will want a SHITTY sticker on their card. I'll be rich!

Peter_Spaeth · #6 06-02-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......we can make this happen!

The app could alert you when a card has hit 80 percent of its expected final value -- which in many cases would be within a few hours of listing.

MattyC · #7 06-02-2018, 09:21 AM

They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.

Leon · #8 06-02-2018, 09:27 AM

Barry (hi Barry) and I were talking about this very subject recently. Hobbyist's are becoming more savvy. Just because a TPG says a card is a technical grade doesn't mean it is the best quality or has the best eye appeal, only that it meets the technical criteria for that grade. I almost never buy higher graded cards because I can almost always find a better looking one in a lower grade (cheaper to buy) holder. The registry might actually help us other collectors in that respect. Because those collectors need the point higher more than great looking cards.

As to the subject of another sticker? It's not a big deal to me. It is no more than another point of view on condition where I am the final arbiter for my collection, not anyone else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC

They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.

MattyC · #9 06-02-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

The registry might actually help us other collectors in that respect. Because those collectors need the point higher more than great looking cards.

Totally agree. The Registry motto seems to be, "Buy The Holder, Not The Card."

conor912 · #10 06-03-2018, 11:00 AM

You know it's just a matter of time before slabs start getting slabbed, with each grade getting it's own 10 point system.... essentially ending up like coins. "This PSA 4 rates an 8 out of 10 within the 4 grade". It really is turning into a Monty Python skit.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 06-02-2018, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC

They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.

I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.

MattyC · #12 06-02-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.

Oh, I say it a ton, when I browse almost every auction,

pokerplyr80 · #13 06-02-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.

I remember seeing it once. On that green cobb that was a PSA 4 or 5 with paper loss on the back. I think the way it was described was the paper loss seems inconsistent with the assigned grade. It was in a big auction, heritage or rea.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #14 06-02-2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.

I've listed cards on ebay that say it looks worse than the assigned grade.

MonsterCards · #15 06-04-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there a PWCC app yet? One that shows you only PWCC cards?

Yes... eBay

Peter_Spaeth · #16 06-04-2018, 07:44 PM

Well done.

soxandcubbies · #17 06-05-2018, 10:01 PM

PWCC is just trying to do what any other company tries to do in a bull market: try and take advantage of the situation by adding a couple of levels of hype to the listings. There are so many new collectors out there that they flock to the flame like moths willingly overpaying for cards that most experienced collectors will just watch go by. During the last recession you could fill up a box truck with graded cards, now we're on the other side. Patience and selective buying rules the day.

Jim

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