PWCC-PQ (premium quality)

[ruth_rookie]

I thought they stickered cards with “high end” when eye appeal far exceeds the technical grade. What is this “premium quality”? Are they doing away with the term “high end”? Or are they different? Can a card get both stickers? What the hell is going on...

[Peter_Spaeth]

HE lives!! PQ must be one step up from HE?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-T202-H...wAAOSwQz1bEbcR

Good grief.

One is "superior" one is "exceptional." Well damn.

[drcy]

"This is getting too silly."-- Monty Python

[ruth_rookie]

Won’t be long, the majority of eBay listings will have “premium quality” in the title, and that term will get worn out and annoy the hell out of me like “high end” does.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

"Exceptionaly eye appeal for the issue, rating a 3/3 on our scale"

OK so spelling and grammar aside (really it makes your company look pretty dumb but whatever) how about a definition of "our scale" so we know what the hell "3/3" means. Oh wait, it's meaningless.

[Peter_Spaeth]

So does a 4 on a scale of 3 get a high end?

[CobbSpikedMe]

What about when PSA teams up with PWCC to give extra points on the registry for HE and PQ cards? Won't that be special?

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So does a 4 on a scale of 3 get a high end?

The same way an athlete can give 110%

[gregr2]

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[toledo_mudhen]

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...D977&FORM=VIRE

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by gregr2

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Well done. Maybe that's next, selling advertising space on slabs.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I thought they stickered cards with “high end” when eye appeal far exceeds the technical grade. What is this “premium quality”? Are they doing away with the term “high end”? Or are they different? Can a card get both stickers? What the hell is going on...

From the descriptions of the two linked auctions high end is top 5% of examples, and the new premium quality is top 15% of examples of that card in the same grade.

[bensie]

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/eye-appeal

PQ is one tier below HE

[bostonmarathonman]

Originally Posted by bensie

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/eye-appeal

pq is one tier below he

ok, ty

[iwantitiwinit]

Here's some additional simple math that further says this system is B.S.

If average as defined by pwcc's own website is 50% of the population, shouldn't below average and above average each be 25% of the remaining population (basic normal population curve)? You can further breakdown either or both of those population areas into as many pieces as you want, ie. above average, exceptional, high end, etc. but they should sum to 25% each. PWCC has somehow found it possible and proper to invalidate the immutable tennents of math/statistics by having below average contain only 20% of the population and the entire area deemed higher than average comprise 30% of the population.

[egbeachley]

HE is for the technical grade. PQ is for the eye-appeal. The hobby needs this.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

HE is for the technical grade. PQ is for the eye-appeal. The hobby needs this.

No...they both refer to eye appeal

As a consignor, I’m glad to see them do everything possible to maximize sales. As a buyer, I don’t care how they label anything (or how a grader grades anything).

[Arazi4442]

I posted this in a thread when I first joined Net54 (and seen it discussed in other threads as well) but I'll say it again. It absolutely blows my mind that multi-million dollar companies make these assessments without any, or maybe a minimum of, 21st century technology. We all know even a 1 pt change in a TPGs grading of a card can have huge ramifications in that cards value. Just looking on eBay today, a 1987 Donruss Greg Maddux RC SGC 98 is about a $80 card - SGC 100 is a $600-800 card. And that's a modern rookie - we saw the same thing at HA with the PSA 8.5 and 9 Mantle 52 Topps cards. I know everyone who saw the 9 raves about the card and from the scans, I agree, but that's something like a $1.6 million change over 1/2 point grade. Not even getting into the discussion of TPG changing standards over time.

My background is in engineering and I've seen quality related equipment that can measure down to the 1/100 th of a mm. It's impossible to believe that there is not scanning software available that could grade a card electronically (corners, centering, etc). You could also have permanent storage of the scan for any future needs. Maybe things like focus, clarity would still be subjective but the technology is out there to make something this important and $ related as objective and scientific as possible.

I may be misinformed about how cards are currently graded by the TPGs and I hope I am, but no matter how experienced or trained a grader may or may not be, grading solely by visual inspection should have been abandoned in the last century.

Rant over...Carry on

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by Anish

No...they both refer to eye appeal

As a consignor, I’m glad to see them do everything possible to maximize sales. As a buyer, I don’t care how they label anything (or how a grader grades anything).

Yes. This.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

From the descriptions of the two linked auctions high end is top 5% of examples, and the new premium quality is top 15% of examples of that card in the same grade.

But could the two be combined together forming : High End Premium Quality?

This could be the top 5% of the 5% of the 15% of examples of the card within the same grade.

[iwantitiwinit]

This is such b.s., how can you know something is the top 20% or 15%, etc. of a certain population unless you have the entire population in front of you at one time to evaluate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

This is such b.s., how can you know something is the top 20% or 15%, etc. of a certain population unless you have the entire population in front of you at one time to evaluate.

No point trying to bring reason or logic to bear on this. This is marketing hype pure and simple and bs is the currency of marketing.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

This is such b.s., how can you know something is the top 20% or 15%, etc. of a certain population unless you have the entire population in front of you at one time to evaluate.

Exactly....A complete marketing joke!