Why prewar IMO will always be a better investment

Leon · #1 06-14-2018, 08:06 AM

I don't think there is any doubt that the 1950s through 1970s Topps commons are becoming even more common.

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Just looked at a 50's "Find" today. there are hundreds of these finds out there and they will show up more and more frequently as that generation passes on or moves to retirement homes etc...

By find I am talking one owner new to market cards. No emphasis on size or quality. I have bought one of these already and the one I looked at today was a little bigger than that first one. Avg condition EX on both.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-14-2018, 08:40 AM

In the early registry days certain guys were paying insane prices for 8s and 9s on commons that were low pop only because they were hard to find centered. But it was stupid because it was inevitable that over time the pops would go up as more were submitted, PSA gave 8s on borderline centered cards that had been 7s, (probably) cards were shaved slightly to improve their centering, etc.

Scott L. · #3 06-14-2018, 08:53 AM

Wonder what ever happened to Jim Crandall and his quest for however many it was PSA 8 graded sets? I assume his investments in all those PSA 8 commons back then has taken a hit.

rats60 · #4 06-14-2018, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In the early registry days certain guys were paying insane prices for 8s and 9s on commons that were low pop only because they were hard to find centered. But it was stupid because it was inevitable that over time the pops would go up as more were submitted, PSA gave 8s on borderline centered cards that had been 7s, (probably) cards were shaved slightly to improve their centering, etc.

How many of those 8s and 9s would be 6s or 7s today?Guys spent big dollars on cards that have not only gone down, but cards that people won't buy because they are overgraded. I see that all the time when looking a t205s. Cards in old holders with 7, 6 or 5 attached and I just pass because they are expecting two, three or even more times what the card is really worth in today's market. With patience an accurately graded card comes along at a reasonable price.

It wasn't that long ago that there was a thread on here about a t206 set being broken and auctioned. Most of the high dollar cards, starting with the Wagner, were in older holders and people here pointed them out as being overgraded. When the auction ended, the sales prices were much lower than others of the same grade had recently sold for.

conor912 · #5 06-14-2018, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I don't think there is any doubt that the 1950s through 1970s Topps commons are becoming even more common.

I unloaded the last of my postwar a few months ago. Without doubt the supply of that stuff seems to be going up. 50's/60's Topps have become as ubiquitous at '89 Donruss, IMO.

ALR-bishop · #6 06-14-2018, 12:34 PM

Adam---one can never have too many Joe Shlabotnick cards

btcarfagno · #7 06-14-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Adam---one can never have too many Joe Shlabotnick cards

Looks like Gregory Polanco on an almost nightly basis...

T206Collector · #8 06-14-2018, 01:21 PM

The definition of "FIND" is worth considering. Ever flip through an auction catalog from the 1990s or early 2000s? There is some amazing pre-war stuff out there in private collections that has been socked away.

Jeff Morey sold his signed pre-war card collection at Mastro Auctions in 2001. About 32 signed T & E cards that haven't seen the light of day since. I can't wait until the owner (or his/her heirs) divest that collection!

CollectingAmericasPastime · #9 06-14-2018, 02:06 PM

I find this debate to be VERY interesting because it isn't just a supply/demand issue. It's an outreach issue as well. Am I correct in assuming a reason for the sudden availability for Post War cards is the news of popularity in Post War has reached the right people with a collection of Post War in their attic that they either had passed on to them or collected and don't really care about anymore?

I wonder the amount of people like that, that exist on the Pre War side.

Exhibitman · #10 06-14-2018, 05:50 PM

Well, we are in the right age range now for people who collected cards as kids in the 1940s-1950s to start downsizing...whether they do so voluntarily or by attrition and estate liquidation.

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