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Old 06-18-2018, 11:03 AM
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and dag nabbit I have never seen that scorecard slide on a Hassan pack - that is QUITE special although surely not unique. It makes some sense as they used base ball in a few of their offerings and advertising. VERY neat - to me anyway as I can't recall any other packs including an interactive component. Anyone else?
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:08 AM
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Default Scott - wowza!!!!

them is spectacular.

Jay - OK OK I knew that :-)
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:31 AM
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Default Great article Jerry

Did you write it? Perfect opportunity to post it. I might suggest while it's true that cards were initially produced and put into packs to stimulate sales - what precipitated their inclusion into packs was that there was an increasing outcry at the "scandalous" and suggestive LARGE photographic and chromolithographic advertising pieces that were being displayed in shop windows. Putting their advertising INTO the product was a way of getting around this and therein fulfilled a dual purpose. Now perhaps there's some conjecture involved - but I have read contemporaneous accounts of such righteous indignation.

I have only read part of the article but did notice the Yum Yum tin. I know there was a paper notice referring to base ball cards being included attached on the bottom? Was it the rectangular tin or the pail or perhaps both?

adding: I agree that the four base hits likely came in a similar package to the Kalamazoo as I have 2/3 examples that are similar for different brands. I think packaging WILL be found.
I think it's conceptually a mistake to call the Gold Coin a "pack" as I think it most likely was a paper PACKAGE although I have no concrete evidence. Because of that, a couple redemption offers for the labels, and the graphics are flat - we may never find an actual package. As I write this - I'm thinking that might not even be the appropriate package. I'll get back to you :-)

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Mayo & Bros. Tobacco tins and N300 cards perfect together in 1895


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Old 06-18-2018, 12:05 PM
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and dag nabbit I have never seen that scorecard slide on a Hassan pack - that is QUITE special although surely not unique. It makes some sense as they used base ball in a few of their offerings and advertising. VERY neat - to me anyway as I can't recall any other packs including an interactive component. Anyone else?
Henry-

I believe the Hassan packs that had a T202 triple folder inside were printed with the scorer on the back of the inner slide. I have 2 Hassan packs in my collection, both of which were from a find in 1994 that were unopened and contained T202s (both were subsequently opened before I could purchase them). In both circumstances, the inner slide had a scorer.

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Old 06-18-2018, 02:43 PM
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Default excellent - thanks Jon

I would expect that to be the case but never thought it out. Adds to my appreciation for the series. I must keep an eye out now :-)
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Old 06-18-2018, 03:18 PM
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Yes Henry, this article was published in Beckett's Vintage Collector last year.

What was scandalous about advertising displays in shop windows? I have not encounter that circumstance in my search. For one of his other incentives Duke would find every social and patriotic event to donate free cigarettes to encourage cigarette smoking.

Yum Yum tin is just a prop from my files - don't need the real thing in this case.

Gold Coin (pack and package are synonyms) - I favor your crystal ball's response that GC packaging WILL be found. My cheap crystal ball does not respond.

Hope you get to finish reading the article soon - good stuff at the end - Teddy stepped in - the bad guy lost!


With your expertise you should write - there are many areas still unexplored. Guess you would agree just uploading pictures without explanation is not as rewarding.
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With respect to Yum Yum, as far as I'm aware, only the square tins have been found with the labeling about cards being packaged inside.
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This is the only related item I own. Don't know if it would have ever contained any cards.
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Jon, your GC tin is labeled that cards are inside! You showed that tin some time ago but I didn't see the card reference.

Thanks for the update.
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Henry - here's another Hassan w/scorecard. This one had a beautiful (albeit off-centered) T202 pulled out of it in 1994.
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