Another high end sticker -- "PC"??

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I saw them on cards at one table and it was many of their cards. I found it ironic that just about every card they owned qualifies for the sticker. Now they did have some very nice cards, but come on not all deserve a positive qualifier, as they called it Otherwise it kind of becomes irrelevant. These stickers seem silly to me. I don’t mind paying over vcp for a card I want that I feel exhibits stronger qualities but I don’t need an ugly sticker hampering the looks and trying to sway my opinion. Buy the card not the holder or the hype stickers. At least the purple LabelGuy seems to be offering the service to The public and not just cards he sells, unlike the others using this silliness.

I have bought from Brady and Jeff before. Every card I have gotten was dead centered, and would have been worthy of a pristine centering sticker. I wouldn't be surprised if they could add a sticker to 80 or 90% of their inventory.

[Tennis13]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I have bought from Brady and Jeff before. Every card I have gotten was dead centered, and would have been worthy of a pristine centering sticker. I wouldn't be surprised if they could add a sticker to 80 or 90% of their inventory.

Exactly. I know he brands this, and I happen to also know the guy knows a bit about branding. Love it or hate it, if there are 4 guys tryng to do this, I have a feeling this one may survive, given the real world experience he has with branding. I mean its only natural that things evolve to this point and they will continue to evolve further. I mean BVG has, what, 4 tiered grades and a final grade on a card?

On a side note I saw his cards I think 2 years ago and said “this one isnt centered like u usually do” and he said “it’s not mine. I am selling it for a friend”

He doesnt price cheap, but his stuff is quality and he is good at buying the card not the grade, and it kind of bums me out that he is so good at that because we collect the same stuff. He just plays in a higher stratosphere.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I have bought from Brady and Jeff before. Every card I have gotten was dead centered, and would have been worthy of a pristine centering sticker. I wouldn't be surprised if they could add a sticker to 80 or 90% of their inventory.

Then why the we aren’t professionals disclaimer and why not offer the service to the public? It’s a gimmic in my honest opinion and have buyers become so lazy they can’t make any determinations on their own anymore? I think the service may have value if it were done independently by a third party but honestly lacks impartiality when doing it to your own cards.

[Johnny630]

This is all a marketing move. When one does it others will follow. Some Sellers are trying to stretch every single cent out of each and every card. IMO other then greed which is prob 75% of it, Some do this because they have it in their heads that vest pocket dealers/resellers/eBay Guys whatever dealers want to call them come to the shows looking to buy cards that are Undergraded looking for a crack and higher grade. Dealers know what some are doing so they put this PC sticker on said item. Again it’s their privy and who really cares. We are are all smart here and know what we like and what to look for. When I hear comments from sellers stating this the nicest centered 7 you’re gonna see I say to myself then why isn’t it a 7.5 or 8. It’s all BS to try and market their cards to what they believe is more effective. Just my observations from being around a long time. If I let little crap like PC stickers bother bother me I’d lose my mind.

[deeg23]

Hate on the stickers all you want, but this was one of my favorite tables at the National! Some gorgeous post war cards 👌🏼👌🏼

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Yes but I imagine it would have been one of your favorites without the stickers as well.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As the great lyric from Gypsy goes,
You gotta get a gimmick, if you want to get ahead.

Jeff has always had very nice cards that are high end for the grade. I have some. I am surprised he went this direction, but perhaps after the show he will explain his thinking.

[deeg23]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Yes but I imagine it would have been one of your favorites without the stickers as well.

True 🙂 but I just don’t see the point in complaining about the stickers.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by deeg23

True �� but I just don’t see the point in complaining about the stickers.

Because the stickers make the entire package of the graded card look tacky and stupid. I hate it when dealers put price stickers on the slabs that leave a residue when I take them off. If the sticker comes off easily then I don't care at all.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Then why the we aren’t professionals disclaimer and why not offer the service to the public? It’s a gimmic in my honest opinion and have buyers become so lazy they can’t make any determinations on their own anymore? I think the service may have value if it were done independently by a third party but honestly lacks impartiality when doing it to your own cards.

I asked Jeff about this and he said they're using the stickers to encourage PSA to add a positive qualifier for elite centering. It sounds like a good idea to me. It did not sound like they're trying to start a new service or business like those purple stickers.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

They want a positive qualifier for the most readily observable visual characteristic of a card...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

They want a positive qualifier for the most readily observable visual characteristic of a card...

PSA is not going to do subgrades like Beckett, in my opinion. Why does Jeff need to sticker his own cards if he wants to encourage PSA to make a change, he could simply communicate with them? If the goal is to show they sell for more, without a control (same card, no sticker), and a relatively low volume of cards, I don't think it would prove anything.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Well PSA might actually get interested now that I come to think of it, as it would be yet another opportunity for regrading. Half Points, Slab Changes etc have all been big money makers for PSA.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Well PSA might actually get interested now that I come to think of it, as it would be yet another opportunity for regrading. Half Points, Slab Changes etc have all been big money makers for PSA.

I can see it now. 8E (for ELITE centering). LOL.

[Throttlesteer]

Maybe I'm just a little slow. But it seems centering is probably the easiest characteristic to determine with a grade. No magnification is necessary. Do I need a sticker to tell me a card has great centering? Nope. I just don't find it helpful at all. I get that centering seems to have overtaken corners as what's most important for the hobby. But the sticker isnt telling me something I cant already see with my own two eyes.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA is not going to do subgrades like Beckett, in my opinion. Why does Jeff need to sticker his own cards if he wants to encourage PSA to make a change, he could simply communicate with them? If the goal is to show they sell for more, without a control (same card, no sticker), and a relatively low volume of cards, I don't think it would prove anything.

If the stickers get a positive reaction st a show that PSA is set up at it could certainly help their case. As someone who primarily collects centiered cards I am in favor of this idea. I dont need a sticker or qualifier to tell me a card is centered. But it is always a little nerve racking sending a card to auction that I paid a big premium for because of centering. Adding the centering qualifier could help set a more standard premium.

And I think it would be an 8C, not an 8E.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

If the stickers get a positive reaction st a show that PSA is set up at it could certainly help their case. As someone who primarily collects centiered cards I am in favor of this idea. I dont need a sticker or qualifier to tell me a card is centered. But it is always a little nerve racking sending a card to auction that I paid a big premium for because of centering. Adding the centering qualifier could help set a more standard premium.

And I think it would be an 8C, not an 8E.

So what's your cutoff for the "C"? And what do they use to measure it? Do you want every stupid modern 10 to have a C after it, or only cards before a certain year? Etc.