Hey, pennant guys

[perezfan]

Very nice pickups, jimm!


On a separate note, I've noticed a disturbing (and growing) trend of Ebay Sellers portraying reproduction pennants as vintage. Way too many examples to list, but here are a few examples...


Seller uses the word "vintage" in his description, and has it priced at 6 times the value of a reproduction. Hopefully nobody gets sucked in...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bro....c100011.m1850


Just another obvious Mitchell & Ness Repro, which has garnered 2 bids over $100 so far. You would hope that anyone with over $100 to spend on a piece of felt could tell the difference...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-ORIGIN...t/192630816617


Common reproduction of a Brooklyn Bums Pennant. But the seller uses the word "vintage" and has it priced at 4 times the value of a repro...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MLB...gAAOSwojdbOVXk


There are far more.... it took me about 4 minutes to find these three

[ooo-ribay]

^^^ P.T. Barnum’s watch was slow.

[Duluth Eskimo]

It bothers me too. I sometimes email them and obviously get no response. They all know exactly the scam they are running. I don’t know how people live with themselves, but that is society nowadays.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

It bothers me too. I sometimes email them and obviously get no response. They all know exactly the scam they are running. I don’t know how people live with themselves, but that is society nowadays.

I emailed someone about this a couple weeks back and they actually updated their listing. I expected a snarky response but all I got was "ok" and when I checked the listing was revised.

But I agree...I've noticed many more recently. I was always thankful reproductions hadn't really made their way into the pennant hobby. They've pretty much ruined the card hobby. Just about any card you search on eBay will have unauthorized fakes in the search results.

Don't know if I ever posted about it on here, but I bought a "rare" Packers pennant from a guy in Canada. It looked a little weird but it was the Packers so I took a shot. The thing was made out of fuzzy construction paper that he called "felt" and literally looked like he made it in his basement using supplies from Michaels.

He didn't offer returns, but when I threatened to open a "not as described" case with eBay...the first response was defensive and resistant. But after opening the case, someone else reached out to me and couldn't have been more cooperative. In fact, he refunded my money without me even sending it back. I didn't want it, so I did send it back...and once he received, he sent me another $10 for the return shipping cost. He's got others listed now. I see multiple teams and sports. They are junk. I also noticed he's dropped his asking prices pretty significantly.

[perezfan]

Well, unfortunately a couple of bidders felt this Mitchell & Ness Repro was worth over $300. Such a shame.... I wonder if the "winner" will still be happy when he has it in-hand?

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/19...p2047675.l2565

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Well, unfortunately a couple of bidders felt this Mitchell & Ness Repro was worth over $300. Such a shame.... I wonder if the "winner" will still be happy when he has it in-hand?

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/19...p2047675.l2565

Just curious...Did Mitchell & Ness make more than one version of this pennant? The M&N version I saw had a thinner spine and no 1946 designation on it. Do you think it was added later by someone?

That's a pretty good looking reproduction. Damn Mitchell and Ness.

[perezfan]

Yes... Someone probably added the date along the spine. The graphics of the pennant appear to be the typical M&N "raised velvet", but the date written on the spine looks like paint.

If authentic, this pennant would have sold closer to $2K.