Missing Mantle Rookie at National

[Lprodeline]

FYI-Earl wasn't offered a position in Florida. And I have no doubt he stole the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lprodeline

FYI-Earl wasn't offered a position in Florida. And I have no doubt he stole the card.

That's going to require a full name.

[lowpopper]

If you read my previous posts, I have only stated the facts of the unfortunate scenario. It sounds like something out of a B movie and it angers me to think somebody got me with my guard down.

The Mantle was passed around at the ice cream stand. We all parted ways without me saying “WHERE IS MY EFFING CARD”. Moments later, I am minus 1 mantle rookie.

These are the FACTS of what happened. I will not offer any specific “opinions” about this issue publicly on this forum. It is unfortunate this had to happen. All I can say to everyone who reads this is to learn from my mistake. Make sure you are spatially aware of your items at all times. They can and will spontaneously grow legs.

As for the Vader character, I reached out to her on a direct message and got no
reply. With all the clowning that goes on through this forum, I would not be surprised if it was someone sitting behind a keyboard having some fun at my expense. I salute you, troll.

This is Greg, signing off. Everybody just keep an eye out for my card. That’s all I ask. Have a good weekend.

[toledo_mudhen]

[irv]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

If you read my previous posts, I have only stated the facts of the unfortunate scenario. It sounds like something out of a B movie and it angers me to think somebody got me with my guard down.

The Mantle was passed around at the ice cream stand. We all parted ways without me saying “WHERE IS MY EFFING CARD”. Moments later, I am minus 1 mantle rookie.

These are the FACTS of what happened. I will not offer any specific “opinions” about this issue publicly on this forum. It is unfortunate this had to happen. All I can say to everyone who reads this is to learn from my mistake. Make sure you are spatially aware of your items at all times. They can and will spontaneously grow legs.

As for the Vader character, I reached out to her on a direct message and got no
reply. With all the clowning that goes on through this forum, I would not be surprised if it was someone sitting behind a keyboard having some fun at my expense. I salute you, troll.

This is Greg, signing off. Everybody just keep an eye out for my card. That’s all I ask. Have a good weekend.

That is dirty!

I assume you have reached out to, Leon, as I would assume he has a lot more of her info on her whereabouts? Phone number, etc.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Lprodeline appears to have worked for SGC Authentic, judging by this and another post.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...00&postcount=2

Weirder and weirder, to paraphrase Alice.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And it just got weirder. So two women have now come on this thread (assuming C Vader is who she says she is) to accuse Earl. One who worked for or works for SGC Authentic supposedly and one who though she claims to be from Florida where Earl never worked somehow knew who he was and that he had worked for SGC.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And it just got weirder. So two women have now come on this thread (assuming C Vader is who she says she is) to accuse Earl. One who worked for or works for SGC Authentic supposedly and one who though she claims to be from Florida where Earl never worked somehow knew who he was and that he had worked for SGC.

Pretty amazing, eh, for a "female" who would say the following: 'I cant believe you guys are collecting Dog Food Labels LOL!' If she knows Earl Johnson and knows he worked for SGC and was let go, then she should not be shocked by the fact that guys collect dog food labels referring to Red Hearts. Heck I have been in the hobby for 6 years and not even sure I recall hearing the name Earl Johnson until this thread let alone knowing he worked for SGC.

I am no profiler but I do not believe for a minute that C. Vader is female. I also am not sure I believe a 51 Mantle was actually stolen or is even missing. Something is just not sitting right with me and I hope I am wrong.

What I do know is that Earl has obviously pissed off some people out there that they would come on here and accuse him of theft and the person whose card was allegedly stolen is not denying these "women's" claims. Honestly this feels pretty irresponsible from my vantage point.

[hcv123]

They likely would have spoken to the last 3 people (Greg, partner and Earl??) to hold the card. If not already done, probably still worth doing. Police have ways of making people talk.

[Republicaninmass]

Wow, that us terrible. I guess the proof would be when someone offers it for sale, via text on their cell phone or otherwise, or its subbed for grading.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

The Mantle was passed around at the ice cream stand. We all parted ways without me saying “WHERE IS MY EFFING CARD”. Moments later, I am minus 1 mantle rookie.

So you brought your Mantle to the ice cream stand, it was passed around among several people, and you forgot and left without it? Is that correct?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by MW1

So you brought your Mantle to the ice cream stand, it was passed around among several people, and you forgot and left without it? Is that correct?

The lure of a triple scoop waffle cone can be quite distracting.

[commishbob]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The lure of a triple scoop waffle cone can be quite distracting.

:-) This thread needed some levity because to quote Capt. Miller in Saving Private Ryan..."Things have taken a turn for the surreal."

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by MW1

So you brought your Mantle to the ice cream stand, it was passed around among several people, and you forgot and left without it? Is that correct?

What are the odds that the one card you have on you at the moment...and presumably multiple people have their eyes on...get's stolen?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

As for the Vader character, I reached out to her on a direct message and got no reply. With all the clowning that goes on through this forum, I would not be surprised if it was someone sitting behind a keyboard having some fun at my expense. I salute you, troll.

Originally Posted by NotVader

We met briefly at National when you were viewing my Step-Uncle's RED HEART set and you two were talking about doing the "Purple Sticker" on his Mantle 4.5 VG-EX+. Not sure if you remember me? I am the girl who said 'I cant believe you guys are collecting Dog Food Labels LOL!' I had Florida Gators hat.

She gave a pretty good description of herself. Do you not remember talking to a guy about his Red Heart set and a girl being with him? Did she not say what she said she did (about the dog food label)? Was she not in a Florida Gators hat? You make it sound like you never saw her or talked to her. Either she's making the whole thing up or you have a really bad memory.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That's going to require a full name.

The full name is out there however, this member doesn't have a good phone number on file. "She" is gone. Apparently this person used to work at SGC quite some time ago. I would not believe anything this member said at this point because it is possibly not who it is portrayed to be. It was a 5 yr old membership. That said, there is this newer info....

I have information from a credible source that Earl didn't take this card and this Lisa person has a grudge against him from years ago. And my source says SGC did in fact offer Earl a job but he couldn't take it due to personal matters. I confirmed Earl is in good standing with SGC.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

The full name is out there however, this member doesn't have a good phone number on file. "She" is gone. Apparently this person used to work at SGC quite some time ago. I would not believe anything this member said at this point because it is possibly not who it is portrayed to be. It was a 5 yr old membership.

I have information from a credible source that Earl didn't take this card and this Lisa person has a grudge against him from years ago. And my source says SGC did in fact offer Earl a job but he he couldn't take it due to personal matters. I confirmed Earl is in good standing with SGC.

Thats good to know....I didn't think Earl would do something like this....

[whitehse]

How terrible it is that someone's name can be dragged through the mud by a drive by poster like Earl's name has.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by whitehse

How terrible it is that someone's name can be dragged through the mud by a drive by poster like Earl's name has.

I agree. The whole thing can be deleted on this forum but then it can look worse because others have quoted, responded etc..unless those are deleted too? The best thing to probably do is just put it out here that Earl didn't do anything wrong as far as anyone has shown, whatsoever. My understanding is that this person has also posted damning things on Twitter, which I don't frequent at all. And maybe other places too.
Hey, there is a place on one site where my name is next to a quote saying I am saying it's ok to steal as long as you don't get caught LOL. For the record, I don't and have never believed that., But it is out there as I am saying it. What can you do?

[Peter_Spaeth]

IMO Greg continuing to be cryptic is part of the problem. If Earl wasn't there, or if he doesn't think Earl is culpable, he should say so.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by whitehse

How terrible it is that someone's name can be dragged through the mud by a drive by poster like Earl's name has.

That is certainly not unique to this board or our hobby. The things that are said and assumed about anyone simply accused of a crime these days can be pretty brutal. It seems the presumption of innocence until guilt has been proven is a foreign concept to many.

[Johnny630]

All time lows ugh

[111gecko]

Originally Posted by Leon

The full name is out there however, this member doesn't have a good phone number on file. "She" is gone. Apparently this person used to work at SGC quite some time ago. I would not believe anything this member said at this point because it is possibly not who it is portrayed to be. It was a 5 yr old membership. That said, there is this newer info....

I have information from a credible source that Earl didn't take this card and this Lisa person has a grudge against him from years ago. And my source says SGC did in fact offer Earl a job but he couldn't take it due to personal matters. I confirmed Earl is in good standing with SGC.

For what it’s worth, Earl came to work with us at Baseball Card Roadshows for a year. He didn’t want to move to Florida. During his time with us he was around hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash and inventory and we were never concerned nor had any issues.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I could be wrong, but my gut says the problem is not with Earl, it's with the unidentified third guy. Now why two (apparent) women have jumped on this thread to accuse Earl, I haven't figured out.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I could be wrong, but my gut says the problem is not with Earl, it's with the unidentified third guy. Now why two (apparent) women have jumped on this thread to accuse Earl, I haven't figured out.

Oh come on...Two girls mad at Earl? You don't have to be rocket scientist.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Oh come on...Two girls mad at Earl? You don't have to be rocket scientist.

It is weird, no question. Women never post here and two (one confirmed) show up on this thread?

[Lprodeline]

Update, Net 54 has all of my current info and I have no grudge against anyone. I simply stated my opinion based on personal experiences. Sincerely, Lisa Prodeline

[nsaddict]

Oh boy, here we go round 2.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lprodeline

Update, Net 54 has all of my current info and I have no grudge against anyone. I simply stated my opinion based on personal experiences. Sincerely, Lisa Prodeline

Either you have some knowledge about the facts of the case, which you have not shared, or you don't in which case your "opinion" is completely meaningless speculation. IMO, of course. And if you aren't even going to state the basis for your "opinion" that's completely unfair to Earl and irresponsible. IMO, again.

C Vader never really stated her (assumption) reason for accusing Earl either. She allegedly saw him with Greg and another person in the group passing around the card, but never said why she thought Earl and not the other person took the card.

[Leon]

Inquiring minds would like to know (publicly)!!

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Either you have some knowledge about the facts of the case, which you have not shared, or you don't in which case your "opinion" is completely meaningless speculation. IMO, of course. And if you aren't even going to state the basis for your "opinion" that's completely unfair to Earl and irresponsible. IMO, again.

C Vader never really stated her (assumption) reason for accusing Earl either. She allegedly saw him with Greg and another person in the group passing around the card, but never said why she thought Earl and not the other person took the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's disgraceful IMO, in case that didn't come through before lol. In my opinion, if you're going to accuse someone of a crime, just putting your name by it is not enough, you should have to state your basis.