BGS Turnaround Time: Up to One Year

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Yeah, that seems like an isolated incident. That's why I didn't cross-post it. But I agree with the guys that said it's odd that someone would submit so many expensive 1/1 superfractor autos as bulk submission RCRs. If the cards are worth $500+ each, splurge for an actual slab and not a cardsaver with a sticker on top.

What's an RCR?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

What's an RCR?

Raw card review. Instead of slabbing the card they put it in a card saver with a sticker over it. It costs ~10.00. They can do it at shows or card shops and not have to carry their equipment all over the country.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by rats60

Raw card review. Instead of slabbing the card they put it in a card saver with a sticker over it. It costs ~10.00. They can do it at shows or card shops and not have to carry their equipment all over the country.

Gotcha. Thanks...

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

What's an RCR?

If your card is graded by RCR, it's a little cheaper than full slabbing. If you get your card back at a show and immediately submit it for full grading (at the full grading price, so paying almost double...) you are nearly guaranteed to get the same grade. Once you take it away from the table, the grade is no longer guaranteed. So it's sort of useful, but not very useful.
And when you can get your cards graded by PSA in a bulk special for cheaper, it makes almost no sense.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If your card is graded by RCR, it's a little cheaper than full slabbing. If you get your card back at a show and immediately submit it for full grading (at the full grading price, so paying almost double...) you are nearly guaranteed to get the same grade. Once you take it away from the table, the grade is no longer guaranteed. So it's sort of useful, but not very useful.
And when you can get your cards graded by PSA in a bulk special for cheaper, it makes almost no sense.

On cheaper cards, people are not slabbing, just selling as is, so the buyer knows what the card is. On more expensive cards, slab 9.5 or 10 and just sell if 9 or less. Raw~BGS 9. RCR normally runs about half (or less in bulk) of slabbing. Now about a third since they cut the 10 day service. It is really the only way to grade unless you know you have a sure gem and it is worth paying $30 to grade.

[bobbyw8469]

I'm just floored that BGS thinks it is perfectly acceptable to cash your check and not perform a paid for service after one year. That just blows me away, and begs for some kind of class action lawsuit.

[Marc Simmons]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm just floored that BGS thinks it is perfectly acceptable to cash your check and not perform a paid for service after one year. That just blows me away, and begs for some kind of class action lawsuit.

maybe the answer is, developing a set minimum card value for grading and eliminate grading reprints. I see too many collectors (often novice) submitting cards worth less than $1 in value.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Marc Simmons

maybe the answer is, developing a set minimum card value for grading and eliminate grading reprints. I see too many collectors (often novice) submitting cards worth less than $1 in value.

Seems like a great way to destroy the market base of player and set collectors.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The other grading companies seem able to find the right balance between the revenues they are taking in and having enough employees to grade the cards in a reasonably timely fashion. Not sure why Beckett can't manage the same.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm just floored that BGS thinks it is perfectly acceptable to cash your check and not perform a paid for service after one year. That just blows me away, and begs for some kind of class action lawsuit.

It is not just that, but they are sending their graders out to card shows and card shops to do RCR every week while sitting on those bulk orders for 11 months. Proper business would be to take care of those orders in hand and paid for instead of taking on new business and letting them jump the line in front of bulk orders.

[Dpeck100]

There is a huge difference between buying sporting tickets knowing you have to pay in advance and knowing the season doesn't start for a year vs. sending in cards to be graded thinking they will take two months or so and instead are pushing a year with indications it may be another four to six months.

Absolutely horrific business practice.

This is a major red flag that there could be a serious cash flow issue with the company.

I think competition is good so hopefully they get this rectified.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

There is a huge difference between buying sporting tickets knowing you have to pay in advance and knowing the season doesn't start for a year vs. sending in cards to be graded thinking they will take two months or so and instead are pushing a year with indications it may be another four to six months.

I am totally NOT defending BGS on this, but we are talking about the non-guaranteed service, so there is no promise (as I can tell) on the turnaround. It’s just people getting in the back of a line that now takes a year. The other levels of service (2, 5 and 20-day), I assume, take precedence and the non-guaranteed orders are done whenever they get around to it.

I still agree a year is ridiculous and I would NEVER get in that line (I won’t wait in a line for much these days), but people should know they are signing up for a service that has no promised delivery date.



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