Are UZIT cards as scarce as BROAD LEAF 460 cards ?

rats60 · #1 09-13-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mrvster

its these discussions which help us understand the monster a little better

....Barry, Jay, Sean, Ryan, Ted , Pat , Michael and the others who have posted. great to read your insight and kind words......uzits are a misunderstood animal

Johnny, I feel like we had this same discussion a couple weeks ago in the best t206s to invest in. I feel that Uzits are under valued when you can buy them ~2k and Drums are ~5k. They point was made that there are more known subjects with Drum backs. I asked what about Uzits with pop 3 or under and got no response. There are some Uzits that have larger pops, but when you can pick up an Uzit for 40% of a Drum and they have the same pop, these cards could easily double or more in the next few years, in my opinion.

t206kid · #2 09-13-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Johnny, I feel like we had this same discussion a couple weeks ago in the best t206s to invest in. I feel that Uzits are under valued when you can buy them ~2k and Drums are ~5k. They point was made that there are more known subjects with Drum backs. I asked what about Uzits with pop 3 or under and got no response. There are some Uzits that have larger pops, but when you can pick up an Uzit for 40% of a Drum and they have the same pop, these cards could easily double or more in the next few years, in my opinion.

This is the type of research I've been doing. I've seen no Uzits come up with low pop (I think) and certainly none that I thought were a good deal.

I strongly agree that a Uzit at 2k is a better buy than a Drum at 5k given the relative scarcity.

If you want a list of Uzits with pop lower than 3, send me a message.

MVSNYC · #3 09-13-2018, 11:14 PM

Are people selling clean Uzits for only 2k? If so, please send me their info.

If you're talking about commons in the PSA/SGC 2-3 range, for example...I think you're looking at 3k+ actually.

Luke- weigh in.

t206kid · #4 09-13-2018, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Are people selling clean Uzits for only 2k? If so, please send me their info.

If you're talking about commons in the PSA/SGC 2-3 range, for example...I think you're looking at 3k+ actually.

Luke- weigh in.

Recent public Uzit sales are:

Lake SGC 30 with a touch of back loss: $2700
Latham PSA 3.5: $3200
Steinfeldt PSA 4: $4000
Hummel (recently discovered combo) SGC A: $6600

My only Uzit is a Wagner that's trimmed but otherwise presentable...was $1400. These are reasonable in line with a 1-2 for $2000-3000. Luke might have been involved in a few of these transactions.

mrvster · #5 09-14-2018, 05:32 AM

great to hear from you! we need to chat again soon! YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

Jay and Michael....you are exactly spot on with uzit pricing also....

Mike, i'll call you later my friend or tom to shoot the shit..

INCREDIBLE WORK EVERYONE!

this is what I'm talking about.....we need these discussions to continue with all rare backs, freaks, cobbs.....discuss trends and observations of the market sales data....where is luke on this??? also so many other experts like adam , chuck, ect ect

Rhotchkiss · #6 09-14-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Are people selling clean Uzits for only 2k? If so, please send me their info.

If you're talking about commons in the PSA/SGC 2-3 range, for example...I think you're looking at 3k+ actually.

Luke- weigh in.

I think beater/low-grade Uzits and As can be got for $2k, but I think decent looking commons run between $3k-$4k, and Cobb bat offs Uzits run like $40k+!! Also, for $5k, I am a buyer of Drums all day long. In my experience, Drums are most expensive, followed closely by BL 460 and Uzits lag significantly behind both, but still 2-3x Black Lenox and red Hindu.

Ted, I think Red Hindus are very underrated and underpriced. My problem is I only want them if they have an HOF front. I will take a common back Drum or BL 460 (brown Lenox and of course brown OM), but strongly prefer an HOF front on all other backs, including Uzits.

Pat R · #7 09-14-2018, 10:15 AM

I've never owned an Uzit, BL460 or drum but from my observation in
the time period I've been collecting T206's if someone was on a mission to
collect ten of each not caring who was on the front I think the Uzits
would be the easiest by far and it would be close between BL460
and Drum for second but I think Drum might actually be the toughest
to get to ten with.

rats60 · #8 09-14-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Are people selling clean Uzits for only 2k? If so, please send me their info.

If you're talking about commons in the PSA/SGC 2-3 range, for example...I think you're looking at 3k+ actually.

Luke- weigh in.

SMR for Uzits SMR for Drums
PSA 2 2250.......5000
PSA 3 3200.......7000
PSA 4 4200.......8500

I have seen clean Uzits sell for +/- 2k. I collect by the back not the grade. So there are PSA 2 or SGC 3 cards that I don't want, but there might be a 1.5 or even A, if the back is nice, that I want. I can send those that i don't want your way if I see them, but if you want nice backs, I am your competition. Most likely these cards are going to be in a public auction anyways.

Pat R · #9 09-14-2018, 10:50 AM

I think this was a sleeper lot and someone got a really good deal.
No hall of famers but some pretty nice examples mostly in vg
at less than $850 a card.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...ce?itemid=3717

ullmandds · #10 09-14-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

I think this was a sleeper lot and someone got a really good deal.
No hall of famers but some pretty nice examples mostly in vg
at less than $850 a card.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...ce?itemid=3717

YAH...12 years ago!!!! I also believe uzits to be easier than bl460 and drum...but which of those 2 is tougher...i dunno??

Pat R · #11 09-14-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

YAH...12 years ago!!!! I also believe uzits to be easier than bl460 and drum...but which of those 2 is tougher...i dunno??

You're right Pete I misread the date but still a decent price I think
even back then.

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