How trimmed can a card be and still be graded Near Mint?

[ronniehatesjazz]

What in the world is Heinie Groh holding? Is that some type of old school fungo bat?

[riggs336]

Originally Posted by ronniehatesjazz

What in the world is Heinie Groh holding? Is that some type of old school fungo bat?

We used to call those "bottle bats", but we were young and not very smart.

[brianp-beme]

That was the style of bat that Heinie Groh used and is one of his claims to fame, and like was mentioned it was referred to as a 'bottle' bat. His E220 card has a great image of it.

Brian

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

That was the style of bat that Heinie Groh used and is one of his claims to fame, and like was mentioned it was referred to as a 'bottle' bat. His E220 card has a great image of it.

Brian

Same image also found in 1921 Exhibits

[brianp-beme]

Here is another photo with Heinie and his bottle bat.

Brian

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by ronniehatesjazz

What in the world is Heinie Groh holding? Is that some type of old school fungo bat?

It’s a bottle bat. Groh was well known for using them.

[Rookiemonster]

There use to be a guy at the local card show that had a binder full of theses . I bought two. All were trimmed to complete borderless cards. Just the bottom remained with the name and team.

Also never seen a bottle bat. Is it still legal ? If not when and why was it taken away.

[trdcrdkid]

Here’s my one E220, which is unusually well-centered for the issue. It has much bigger borders than the trimmed one.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

There use to be a guy at the local card show that had a binder full of theses . I bought two. All were trimmed to complete borderless cards. Just the bottom remained with the name and team.

Perhaps they look like this or more likely cut inside the lined image border. I have seen a lot that were cut down in similar fashion.

Brian

[Fred]

Find any T206 card in a PSA holder that says "Hall Collection".

[Rhotchkiss]

That is a real bad mistake. I am glad there are places like net54 where that stuff gets pointed out. Thanks Brian (not that I was after that card, but still good to know). I know very little about E220s, in fact this is the only one I have ever owned, but I thought it was very well centered for what I have seen of E220 (sorry for the side-pic, that’s what happens when a techno-idiot uploads a pic off the phone)