Security at Trade Shows

packs · #1 09-24-2018, 03:08 PM

When would you find out whether or not the person suspected of a theft was the thief? Would it be before or after you pulled a firearm on them in a crowded room? What happens after you pull a firearm on a person suspected of a theft, but that person wasn't the thief? Does one simply shrug, smile and apologize?

Lorewalker · #2 09-24-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

When would you find out whether or not the person suspected of a theft was the thief? Would it be before or after you pulled a firearm on them in a crowded room? What happens after you pull a firearm on a person suspected of a theft, but that person wasn't the thief? Does one simply shrug, smile and apologize?

I assume this was directed to me but I was agreeing with you in my previous post. Even if not illegal--even the mere brandishing of a gun to prevent a theft, is probably an accident waiting to happen and could escalate into someone actually getting hurt. Not sure it is worth protecting one's valuables if the price to pay is possibly winding up in jail as a result of doing so. There is a price for freedom. Sure it is worth far more than most cards.

packs · #3 09-24-2018, 04:12 PM

I am in total agreement with you. My questions were hypothetical for someone who would support using the threat of a firearm to prevent theft at a card show.

Gnep31 · #4 09-24-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I am in total agreement with you. My questions were hypothetical for someone who would support using the threat of a firearm to prevent theft at a card show.

So would you not attend a card show that has armed security?

packs · #5 09-24-2018, 08:00 PM

I don't have a problem with security personnel. I don't think dealers should advertise that they have a gun to deter people from stealing their baseball cards.

rdwyer · #6 09-24-2018, 09:01 PM

At Frank and Sons in Industry, Ca, a person stole $6000 in gold coins from a dealer. The idiot shows up at the the scene of the crime a week later. The owner and security team of Frank and Sons confronts the thief but cannot detain him. Only the victim could do so. It's really messed up in Calif. Frank and Sons is mostly toys in a giant warehouse. There are some cards dealers but but only a few.

The thief was caught red-handed. Video, witnesses, etc.

Security tried to follow him to his car. But he just stood at the entrance until the cops showed up.

chalupacollects · #7 09-25-2018, 04:16 PM

NY and NJ have very restrictive concealed carry laws to make sure the criminals have the right to a fair chance at robbing you...

GasHouseGang · #8 09-25-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer

At Frank and Sons in Industry, Ca, a person stole $6000 in gold coins from a dealer. The idiot shows up at the the scene of the crime a week later. The owner and security team of Frank and Sons confronts the thief but cannot detain him. Only the victim could do so. It's really messed up in Calif. Frank and Sons is mostly toys in a giant warehouse. There are some cards dealers but but only a few.

The thief was caught red-handed. Video, witnesses, etc.

Security tried to follow him to his car. But he just stood at the entrance until the cops showed up.

I can't follow this story. So the cops caught him?

Gnep31 · #9 09-24-2018, 04:41 PM

Settle down...I said deter. As I stated, I was unaware of NY law. In my state we have the ability to deter and defend...IF deemed necessary.

Obviously having to use a firearm in any manner of self defense is the absolute last resort. I choose to at least have the option.

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