Honus Wagner Patterson NJ BB team photo 1896???

[prewarsports]

I was told the winner was not on the floor, a friend of mine was on the phone for the bidding and they told him it was not a floor bid, that it was someone who came in late, probably because of this thread.

I have no skin in the game as I did not bid but I know a few people who are quite upset about this thread and outing the auction. It takes some of the fun out of the "thrill of the chase" when someone outs an auction early.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I was told the winner was not on the floor, a friend of mine was on the phone for the bidding and they told him it was not a floor bid, that it was someone who came in late, probably because of this thread.

I have no skin in the game as I did not bid but I know a few people who are quite upset about this thread and outing the auction. It takes some of the fun out of the "thrill of the chase" when someone outs an auction early.

I have no skin in the game either, but I do not favor the bidders over the consignor. Outing the auction allowed the consignor to get a fairer price for his item. That is not a bad thing. On a separate note, this auction house did a horrible job publicizing this desirable piece. I never heard about it before this post, and I’m sure many other potential bidders did not either.

[drcy]

Swann is a respected long-time photography auction house. I would have no reason to doubt their authentication ability on the photo.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I was told the winner was not on the floor, a friend of mine was on the phone for the bidding and they told him it was not a floor bid, that it was someone who came in late, probably because of this thread.

I have no skin in the game as I did not bid but I know a few people who are quite upset about this thread and outing the auction. It takes some of the fun out of the "thrill of the chase" when someone outs an auction early.

I know who won it and they were aware of the auction for weeks.

[asphaltman]

The seller left money on it to begin with putting it in Swann in my opinion. While it's a fine and reputable auction house, putting that baseball related item in there with the other stuff that was in that auction was out of place and its easy to see why so many didn't notice it.

And good for the buyer, looks like he may have got a slight deal on it still.

[prewarsports]

With all due respect, one of the first topics ever discussed on this board when I first discovered this site in Feb 2000 (over 18 years ago) was "outing" current auctions. It was discussed and overwhelmingly decided it was in poor taste at that time, has been discussed many times here with the same conclusion since, and will always be considered proper etiquette to wait until something is over. Waiting to discuss pricing or whether something was a good deal has been the unwritten rule of this site and people have been called out for it hundred of times. The exception of course being to discuss as to whether an item is a reprint to save a member from a bad experience.

Had this been an item I had been looking for personally (which this was not) that had been outed by someone unfamiliar with the etiquette of this forum, I would be really pissed off right now. Consignors plugging their own item is a completely different story.

This forum has changed in many ways but the basic fun of it has remained. If an indifference now exists to whether current auctions can be outed and that practice is accepted, it is a step in the wrong direction for the fun of the community.

Again, not something I was bidding on, but the outing of it here before it ended should be looked at as in extremely poor taste by everyone and if not, I believe that is a problem.

[Leon]

I agree and check your emails .

There have been many threads concerning/discussing outing auctions. Personally I don't like them to be outed when open or even right after they close.
It has been debated and hashed out over and over but there can be no hard rule against it. It is still open for debate but it's been debated so much I can't imagine something changing. Also, in defense of one of my all time favorite board members (hi Fred) who started this thread he did think the auction was over. I have been totally hosed before because of someone outing an open auction on ebay, in the wrong category, which I was following. So be it.
I cringe sometimes when I see them discussed when still ongoing. I can see the other side too but still......and outing your own auction in the wrong place on this forum, when found out about, will get you the boot or at least slapped around a little.

Originally Posted by prewarsports

With all due respect, one of the first topics ever discussed on this board when I first discovered this site in Feb 2000 (over 18 years ago) was "outing" current auctions. It was discussed and overwhelmingly decided it was in poor taste at that time, has been discussed many times here with the same conclusion since, and will always be considered proper etiquette to wait until something is over. Waiting to discuss pricing or whether something was a good deal has been the unwritten rule of this site and people have been called out for it hundred of times. The exception of course being to discuss as to whether an item is a reprint to save a member from a bad experience.

Had this been an item I had been looking for personally (which this was not) that had been outed by someone unfamiliar with the etiquette of this forum, I would be really pissed off right now. Consignors plugging their own item is a completely different story.

This forum has changed in many ways but the basic fun of it has remained. If an indifference now exists to whether current auctions can be outed and that practice is accepted, it is a step in the wrong direction for the fun of the community.

Again, not something I was bidding on, but the outing of it here before it ended should be looked at as in extremely poor taste by everyone and if not, I believe that is a problem.

[Rookiemonster]

Yeah I feel bad for who ever would have owned this piece. That’s being said I had no idea he played for P-Town. Is this common knowledge. Was this like a semi pro league ?

[ullmandds]

I too agree the “outing” of live auctions has become all too commonplace on here...hard to prevent when such threads can be disguised as “discussion” threads.


Hard to feel bad for the consignor such a rare and unusual items you would have to have your head in the sand to not know it’s approximate value ??

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I collect items from my hometown of Paterson, NJ and I have several copies of this photo but the original is so much sweeter.

Hi Guys:

SO SORRY for this mess! I TRULY looked at the auction and thought it was over. I thought the site said SOLD FOR $900 or whatever it was when I posted.

I had watched this for awhile and sent myself a reminder to check the auction when the day came.

Serves me right for putting my nose into things I don't have much knowledge about (Pre War).

All I can do is ask your forgiveness. I am just reading this now. I had checked the box for instant email notifications when people reply, however, I have received only one or two for the first replies. So I am seeing all this tonight for the first time or I would have replied sooner.

Again, SO SORRY. I do know the rule not to out auctions. Believe me this is the first and last time I will ask anything about an auction.

Fred McKie

[Bicem]

Don't worry about it Fred, honest mistake. The winner is thrilled, the consignor I'm sure is happy, happy endings all around.