Small crease on Ryan PSA 6

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by rats60

The crease was most likely not there when PSA graded the card. That is a pretty big thing to miss. The most reasonable explanation is the crease was "spooned" out by the submitter and reappeared after it was slabbed. The seller is now trying to stick the OP with a damaged card.

What does a person do when they "spoon" a card? New term for me...

[Rose4HOF]

I gave in and tried spooning the wife....ugh...she still has wrinkles.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Rose4HOF

I gave in and tried spooning the wife....ugh...she still has wrinkles.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

What does a person do when they "spoon" a card? New term for me...

Wet the surface of the card and use a spoon to press the crease out of the card.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by rats60

Wet the surface of the card and use a spoon to press the crease out of the card.

Thanks. Sounds crazy to me.


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[Mountaineer1999]

Seller refused refund so I have opened it up with EBay. His defense in his response to my request was photos were provided and description characterized as PSA 6 so nothing else was needed as he didn't see the crease.

[swarmee]

You are talking with the seller way too much. And you should really take it up with PSA under their grade guarantee, or else this will continue to happen.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by swarmee

You are talking with the seller way too much. And you should really take it up with PSA under their grade guarantee, or else this will continue to happen.

That doesn't entirely make sense to me.

PSA makes a mistake - Ok, it happens.
Seller doesn't notice a crease- Ok, that happens too.
Buyer has to do the legwork and deal with PSA to make it right - What?


To me it seems like the seller should take it back and do the legwork with PSA. The buyer shouldn't be stuck with the nuisance created by PSA and the seller.

[swarmee]

If he wants to return it as "Not as described" and have the seller deal with PSA, that's perfectly fine. More likely is the seller will try to resell the card as a PSA 6 to someone else and we'll get this same post next month.
However, talking to a seller about this and sending him your motivations are completely unnecessary. More likely, you've giving the seller ammunition to provide to eBay to refuse your return request.
Just file the Not as Described return and say "scan doesn't show heavy crease" and eBay will side with you.

[swarmee]

*duplicate post*