1949 LEAF BB set re-visited....show us your cards

[tedzan]

Hi Lou

The so-called "Short-Prints" is a term which the hobby years ago used to identify these cards. I prefer to refer to these 1949 LEAF cards as the "2nd series" cards
which were issued in the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were limited in both production and distribution. Research indicates that this 2nd series of 1949 LEAF's
were marketed only in Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. While the 1st series of 49 cards were marketed in large numbers nationwide.
My understanding as to why this occurred was due to litigation problems between the BOWMAN GUM CO. and the LEAF GUM CO. in 1949.

All 49 cards in this 2nd series are displayed in this thread in Posts #22, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.


1st Series.....issued March 1949






2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949






TED Z

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[tedzan]

….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.

Note that SGC identifies the year of these Premiums as 1949. And, I think PSA does, also. Yet they incorrectly identify the 1949 BB cards. Trust me, guys...…
these Premiums were inserted in the 24-count Wax-Back boxes which the 1949 BB cards were packaged in. I would say, PSA and SGC are totally confused ! ?








TED Z

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[Ken Morganti]

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Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

[RedsFan1941]

again ... grading companies not alone on this nor were they the first. i know you know this.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Ken Morganti

Attachment 334676
Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

Hi Ken

It's a very tough card, no matter it's condition. Thanks for posting it.


Here's the Hermansk in my set....not too much better.






TED Z

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[tedzan]

….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.







TED Z

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[tedzan]

….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.


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TED Z

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[tedzan]

In early press runs Kent Peterson is depicted with a black cap. Later issues of 1st series cards Kent Peterson is depicted with a Red cap.
My guess is LEAF changed the color of his cap to be consistent with the 3 other Cincinnati players in the 1st series. The Red cap version
is much tougher to find.






TED Z

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[Leon]

Sorry to bump on old thread but this caught my eye as I was rabbit holing something. How does a card get this rounded of corners and not have creases? Pretty nice centering too.

Great thread, btw.

Originally Posted by Ken Morganti

Attachment 334676
Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sorry to bump on old thread but this caught my eye as I was rabbit holing something. How does a card get this rounded of corners and not have creases? Pretty nice centering too.

Great thread, btw.

Hi Leon..... " How does a card get this rounded of corners and not have creases? "

Not unusual. When we were not flipping these LEAF's in 1949, we were "scaling" them (from a distance of about 6 feet, or so) towards the front stoop of our homes.
The guy whose card was the closest to the 1st step of the stoop won all the cards piled upon the pavement. If you should get a "leaner", you won twice the number
cards piled upon the pavement. And, if someone knocked down your leaner with his toss, he tripled the win. Typically, anywhere from 2 to 6 guys would participate
in this game. It was a very popular sport among us 10 year old kids in the late 1940's to early 1950's.
So these thick cardboard LEAF cards did not easily crease, but their corners sure became quite worn. Here are 4 examples from my original (70 year-old) collection.
Note, no creases but quite worn corners. I have many more of these "rounded -cornered" cards. However, they are hidden away in my "mysterious archives", which
I cannot find.




TED Z

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[jason.1969]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Lou



The so-called "Short-Prints" is a term which the hobby years ago used to identify these cards. I prefer to refer to these 1949 LEAF cards as the "2nd series" cards

which were issued in the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were limited in both production and distribution. Research indicates that this 2nd series of 1949 LEAF's

were marketed only in Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. While the 1st series of 49 cards were marketed in large numbers nationwide.

My understanding as to why this occurred was due to litigation problems between the BOWMAN GUM CO. and the LEAF GUM CO. in 1949.



All 49 cards in this 2nd series are displayed in this thread in Posts #22, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.





1st Series.....issued March 1949













2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949













TED Z



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Ted mentions the Bowman/Leaf lawsuit. Here is a contemporary Boston Globe article on the suit filed by Boston ace Warren Spahn and five other players. May 5, 1949.

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[Rare Stuff]

1949 Leaf Premium Babe Ruth - Blue variation

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

Ted mentions the Bowman/Leaf lawsuit. Here is a contemporary Boston Globe article on the suit filed by Boston ace Warren Spahn and five other players. May 5, 1949.

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Jason

Furthermore,
BOWMAN also sued LEAF over the use of BOWMAN's logo "BASEBALL BUBBLE GUM" on their waxpacks.



..................... 1949 BOWMAN ............................................... 1949 LEAF .........................

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[tedzan]

We have here a rare occurrence in Sportscards where a well-known Baseball player's Rookie card is actually his Football card.


1948 LEAF
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[tedzan]

My favorite 1949 LEAF FB card, Johnny Lujack.

Note
LEAF continued printing the FB cards (Fall of 1949) with the Gray cardboard stock of which they printed the 1949 BB cards.


So, let's see some more of your 1949 LEAF BB cards.
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TED Z

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