Mount Rushmore of Industry Icons

steve B · #1 11-20-2018, 09:11 AM

Looks like the criteria is very skewed towards people who did stuff more recently. That's a bit limiting.
To me �
The certain ones
- Sy Berger
- Jim Beckett
- Jefferson Burdick

And,
Enos Goudey - Most of the 30's sets were from Boston area gum companies, and nearly all of those had some connection to Goudey.

Lionel Carter

The maybes
- David Hall
- Richard McWilliam
- Mike Berkus
- Larry Fritsch

And

Renata Galasso
Michael Aronstein
Michael Schechter
Andrew Peck

Plus maybe a few hundred other people...�..

I don't think athletes belong. Yes, they're important because the hobby is mostly about promotional items they're on, but few had any real involvement besides posing for a photo.

And the no list
- Pierre Omidyar
- Mr Mint
- Don West

They were all involved, although Omidyar probably didn't plan on being involved - just ended up in a decent place.
But It's debatable whether their influence was positive or not.

And the "you must be kidding" list

- Bill Mastro

h2oya311 · #2 11-20-2018, 09:24 AM

1) Bob Lemke - primary contributor to the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards; custom baseball cards, hobby legend
2) Jefferson Burdick - cataloguer

possibly also Lew Lipset (although there are mixed feelings about his demeanor) and Michael Aronstein (aka TCMA) and Larry Fritsch

And I agree, no athletes should make the list, despite their importance.

conor912 · #3 11-20-2018, 09:28 AM

Yeah, the term "favorable" is going to vary greatly between individuals in this exercise.

commishbob · #4 11-20-2018, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2oya311

1) Bob Lemke - primary contributor to the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards; custom baseball cards, hobby legend
2) Jefferson Burdick - cataloguer

possibly also Lew Lipset (although there are mixed feelings about his demeanor) and Michael Aronstein (aka TCMA) and Larry Fritsch

And I agree, no athletes should make the list, despite their importance.

Bob Lemke...how could I forget to mention him? He was a prince and a tireless contributor to many projects. He was the anti-Mr Mint

ocjack · #5 11-20-2018, 10:18 AM

Frank Nagy should be in consideration as well.

Rich Klein · #6 11-20-2018, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commishbob

Bob Lemke...how could I forget to mention him? He was a prince and a tireless contributor to many projects. He was the anti-Mr Mint

Actually Bob and Mr. Mint did quite a lot of communications. He was not the anti Mr. Mint

Rich

conor912 · #7 11-20-2018, 10:45 AM

We should make a ballot (poll) and post it. The Net54 Collector's HOF. Inaugural class of 4, then voting every January for 1 inductee.

Cozumeleno · #8 11-20-2018, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B

Looks like the criteria is very skewed towards people who did stuff more recently. That's a bit limiting.
To me �
The certain ones
- Sy Berger
- Jim Beckett
- Jefferson Burdick

And,
Enos Goudey - Most of the 30's sets were from Boston area gum companies, and nearly all of those had some connection to Goudey.

This would be my exact list.

polakoff · #9 11-20-2018, 09:49 AM

Some wonderful nominations we hadn't gotten yet, and some that we'd received previously but will give more credence to given their support here. Please keep them coming!

If Leon allows, when we finalize nominations, I will post a link to the poll for voting.

Bpm0014 · #10 11-20-2018, 09:55 AM

Barry Halper?

Leon · #11 11-20-2018, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polakoff

Some wonderful nominations we hadn't gotten yet, and some that we'd received previously but will give more credence to given their support here. Please keep them coming!

If Leon allows, when we finalize nominations, I will post a link to the poll for voting.

I agree about nominations and have no issue with any of this.The history of the hobby is an enjoyable subject.
It reminds me of, about 40 yrs ago, when I volunteered at the Houston Zoo reptile department. It was a great department back then (don't know anything about today). One main reason it was great is that the curator of the museum was a herpetologist. Go figure.
To me, The first 3 hobbyists (already mentioned) as shoe ins are Burdick, Berger and Beckett.
And I would vote to make it the Mt. Rushmore of the top 5.

(if there were a vote.) That way more can be on it.

ps...I like Conor's idea right above here too.

polakoff · #12 11-20-2018, 11:21 AM

I like a HOF idea but, if you could, please wait until after January 7th so as to not take the wind out of the sails of this project!

I agree that the 3 B's are on my list. The other person involved is on the fence about Burdick (we have had many a fight about this) but Berger and Beckett seem to be absolute certainties. I do think Burdick will pull it out, and then the 4th spot is anyone's guess. We'll see!

The plan is to accept nominations through December 3rd. Next Monday there will be a blog post introducing the idea formally to the masses. On December 3rd we will have a culled list of nominees (knowing that, even though there are many nominees, not everyone can make the final list). That final list will be made into a poll with voting open for 4 weeks and closing on December 31st. On January 7th the Mount Rushmore will be formally announced.

Per Leon's blessing above I will post links when applicable in order to direct folks to the voting.

During the voting I also plan on running several blog posts featuring debate and discussion, so if you feel passionately for (or against) a certain nominee, feel free to elaborate, and I will contact you for permission to include it in a post.

Thanks everyone -- keep 'em coming!

Dewey · #13 11-20-2018, 11:41 AM

Jacob Warren Bowman
Sy Berger
Jefferson Burdick
James Beckett

Fred · #14 11-20-2018, 11:47 AM

Ted Z for T206 (and probably lots of other stuff). Love reading his posts.

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