Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

[Jasonxmay]

Wow. That one was mine. I bought it through REA in 2015. It had JSA authentication at the time, and I subsequently had PSA authenticate it.

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Which means that PSA has now also missed...



...and now we're up in the big bucks ($24,000):

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=53245

[jad22]

Somebody should check the 2013 Heritage ones.

[ATP]

Originally Posted by Jasonxmay

Wow. That one was mine. I bought it through REA in 2015. It had JSA authentication at the time, and I subsequently had PSA authenticate it.

Wow, I am speechless. As someone who deals in autographs, this seriously makes my heart hurt. I currently only own one signed T206 , and the owner of it before me (board member) had it since the 1980's. I've always felt it was authentic but alas it never passed TPA. Now I see all of these recently created ones and it makes me sick to my stomach.

[t206kid]

This so bad for the hobby on so many levels. T206 autos are such a cool rarity. These are my two both bought from well known net54ers. Don't have any doubts, but if anyone wants to do detective work I would appreciate it.

Snodgrass is Polar Bear and Doyle is Sweet Cap 350-460 42 overprint.

[theshleps]

I recently had the SGC put into a PSA holder. I believe the other is still JSA. Not sure when purchased. I've been a bad record keeper. I believe I have had the Piedmont for %+ years but the other is more recent- maybe last 2 years. Anyone have bad news for me??
Flick 1909 T-206 Piedmont front.jpg

flick 1909 T-206 Sweet Caporal.jpg

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by theshleps

I recently had the SGC put into a PSA holder. I believe the other is still JSA. Not sure when purchased. I've been a bad record keeper. I believe I have had the Piedmont for %+ years but the other is more recent- maybe last 2 years. Anyone have bad news for me??
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Your bottom left corner looks worse, but the right corner crease and, more convincingly, the center crease look spot on to this card.

Sold by sg713 on 02/22/2015

Found on CardTarget

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Your bottom left corner looks worse, but the right corner crease and, more convincingly, the center crease look spot on to this card.

Sold by sg713 on 02/22/2015

Found on CardTarget

Wow, card #7.

This is the first one I've seen with added corner wear.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Your bottom left corner looks worse, but the right corner crease and, more convincingly, the center crease look spot on to this card.

Sold by sg713 on 02/22/2015

Found on CardTarget

That's Scott, maybe he can help on the buyer.

[1treasuretrove]

Horrible for the hobby and this clearly reflects badly on the TPAs, but this is great detective work. Fantastic team effort in exposing this.

[theshleps]

Originally Posted by Pat R

That's Scott, maybe he can help on the buyer.

i bought the fake Flick from Hunt 2/24/16

[asoriano]

Sickening.

[theshleps]

another try, my Crawfords, all now in PSA
Crawford 1909 T206 throwing sweet caporal.jpg

Crawford 1909 Sweet Caporal 350 T 206.jpg

Crawford 1909 T-206 Piedmont .jpg

[Pat R]

Same Buyer on the Baker. Sold by painthistorian on February 23 2015.

Baker Sale.jpg

[t206kid]

Scott is a board member...perhaps he can sort back through emails/records and see who the buyer was.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Same Buyer on the Baker. Sold by painthistorian on February 23 2015.

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I have, from a reliable source, the ebay buyer's id (same as the Flick, I guess). The ebay fraud folks are interested in helping too. We will see where this goes. Also, are there any bad ones on ebay right now (does anyone know)?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have, from a reliable source, the ebay buyer's id (same as the Flick, I guess). The ebay fraud folks are interested in helping too. We will see where this goes. Also, are there any bad ones on ebay right now (does anyone know)?

Do you imagine the criminal(s) who pulled this fraud are reading these threads? Do you suppose they are sleeping well tonight?

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have, from a reliable source, the ebay buyer's id (same as the Flick, I guess). The ebay fraud folks are interested in helping too. We will see where this goes. Also, are there any bad ones on ebay right now (does anyone know)?

See Post 262 for six current eBay listings. From what I’ve seen, at least a couple look suspect and one seller had three listings. Better scans below...




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[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have, from a reliable source, the ebay buyer's id (same as the Flick, I guess). The ebay fraud folks are interested in helping too. We will see where this goes. Also, are there any bad ones on ebay right now (does anyone know)?

Leon, this is big. His feedback history likely contains his entire forgery portfolio. It could be 100 cards or more. All we need to do it look through each one on Cardtarget and Worthpoint by the title and seller ID, and then look to see if any signed versions surfaced 9 months later at auctions. This can blow the case wide open!

[CuriousGeorge]

I am sure this goes well beyond T206’s. I was planning to bid on a few in the upcoming Memory Lane auction and of course now won’t even consider it.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Jasonxmay

Wow. That one was mine. I bought it through REA in 2015. It had JSA authentication at the time, and I subsequently had PSA authenticate it.

Re: PSA cert and following numbers, here was the submitter for that group.

[Jasonxmay]

I submitted the Baker along with around 30 of my most valuable cards at the Chicago Sun Times show. The other t206s that were mentioned earlier were part of that submission.

Originally Posted by swarmee

Re: PSA cert and following numbers, here was the submitter for that group.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Jasonxmay

I submitted the Baker along with around 30 of my most valuable cards at the Chicago Sun Times show. The other t206s that were mentioned earlier were part of that submission.

I know; I was sticking up for you. I wanted to make it clear that your submission should not be considered from the forger.

[Jasonxmay]

I appreciate it. That’s how I interpreted your post. I just wanted to provide that additional information for anyone who was interested.

Originally Posted by swarmee

I know; I was sticking up for you. I wanted to make it clear that your submission should not be considered from the forger.