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Old 11-28-2018, 10:23 PM
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Nice Chris, just found that one as well. So far I cant find a non signed version of yours Paul.

Unfortunately they are even faking back damage now.

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Old 11-28-2018, 10:45 PM
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So far I cant find a non signed version of yours Paul.
I assume you mean the Murray? I would guess the white triangular paper loss around the crease was done by the fraudster, which would make it that much tougher to uncover.
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I assume you mean the Murray? I would guess the white triangular paper loss around the crease was done by the fraudster, which would make it that much tougher to uncover.
Being an auto collector, to me this is heart wrenching. I don't collect T206...but have to ask about the condition altering of the cards; Are there specific spots on the T206 cards where a bend or spotting would be most likely?
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The right thing now is for the TPA and AH to get their evidence in order and go to the FBI. My guess is that might not happen though. They will not want the publicity which that would surely engender.
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I think this tarnishes JSA’s reputation pretty bad since they seem the link that had originally authenticated all of these before they were sent to PSA and SGC. Not that those TPGs are off the hook either.

But this really makes you think what other autos besides t206 did JSA miss? Chances are good the forger didn’t start out forging t206 autos until a few years ago when he or she realized the prices autograph t206s were going for. I’m sure there may be hundreds if not thousands of card autographs from after the war that were forged before or during his or hers t206 forgeries. Think Clementes, Williams, Mays, Gehrig, Ruth, you name it.

To me, no era is safe. Especially if JSA clearly doesn’t do any real hard forensic work. I’m assuming they just reference a few authentic autographs in their database and compare them and give them a thumbs up. That may have been a beneficial service before the internet but nowadays you can look up any autograph online and with just a little penmanship practice pass JSA’s and the TPG test.
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The right thing now is for the TPA and AH to get their evidence in order and go to the FBI. My guess is that might not happen though. They will not want the publicity which that would surely engender.
The FBI surely can investigate whether the TPA and AH go to them or not.
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The right thing now is for the TPA and AH to get their evidence in order and go to the FBI. My guess is that might not happen though. They will not want the publicity which that would surely engender.
They would be better off going public and marketing it as a "see, we care to help clean things up marketing campaign we've learned from this..." rather than hiding as if they were guilty of something... Take your lumps, fix the issue and improve...
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They would be better off going public and marketing it as a "see, we care to help clean things up marketing campaign we've learned from this..." rather than hiding as if they were guilty of something... Take your lumps, fix the issue and improve...
agreed but what are the odds of that happening?
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That shouldn’t take more than like 5-10 minutes correct? Not being a jerk, but you providing the name is a big piece of the puzzle, and shouldn’t take long to figure out who it was that purchased these off you...
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I presume law enforcement will take an active interest in this, and I presume the AHs will cooperate with law enforcement. I don't think we need a public outing to accomplish the goal here. It obviously isn't the AHs' fault.
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agreed but what are the odds of that happening?
Well guess it may depend on how it hits their bottom lines moving forward...and if the LEO's involve themselves in to the party,,,
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