Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

ALBB · #1 12-05-2018, 06:49 PM

Starting to get very suspicious of signed Goudey cards

I think that's going to be the next bomb dropped

ullmandds · #2 12-05-2018, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBB

Starting to get very suspicious of signed Goudey cards

I think that's going to be the next bomb dropped

I think the bomb is the ineptitude of TPG'ers when it comes to authenticating autographs and their lack of expertise in the service they provide.

painthistorian · #3 12-05-2018, 07:04 PM

The seller of those 1933 Goudeys pictured on this thread (signed & unsigned) is from Lewiston, Illinois, which may or may not be affiiated to the other e bay person that bought my T206 baker (Ohio)...One thing VERY interesting, the seller of the 1933 Goudey Ferrell & Terry has a lot of 1950's Baseball Boxes & Baseballs(not signed) for sale, and a lot of autographs which to me dont look right ...he may have bought these items from someone else but no question, some of those "certified" autographs need to be re examined.

jad22 · #4 12-05-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by painthistorian

The seller of those 1933 Goudeys pictured on this thread (signed & unsigned) is from Lewiston, Illinois, which may or may not be affiiated to the other e bay person that bought my T206 baker (Ohio)...One thing VERY interesting, the seller of the 1933 Gouudey Ferrell & Terry has a lot of 1950's Baseball Boxes & Baseballs(not signed) for sale, and a lot of autographs which to me dont look right ...he may have bought these items from someone else but no question, some of those "certified" autographs need to be re examined.

I thought Ebays �Fraud Department� was looking into this.

iwantitiwinit · #5 12-05-2018, 07:13 PM

There are also a large number of signed 48 Bowmans out there.

chalupacollects · #6 12-06-2018, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ALBB

Starting to get very suspicious of signed Goudey cards

I think that's going to be the next bomb dropped

More than likely a series of carpet bombs....

drcy · #7 12-06-2018, 10:18 AM

Of side note, there is an advanced scientific test they use on ancient ceramics to test age, but they don't do it on porcelain due to its finish that shouldn't be damaged. Usually the only time it is done on porcelain is in insurance cases where the item is broken and they're authenticating it for monetary valuation.

However, for most valuable ancient ceramics, collectors and dealers have the test done and get a card giving the age. The test probably costs a few hundred dollars, but when you're talking about a thousands dollar item...

I suspect in the future, with some very valuable baseball item-- perhaps a trophy or something--, someone will have it carbon or other radiometric dated. As I said, I already know of one item that was, but that was for a court case.

Also of note, some of these tests are done by hobbyists, but they're most often done for historical reasons (academia, museums) or for court cases.

Arsenal83 · #8 12-06-2018, 11:07 AM

Has anyone started examining signed 52T? It seems like these have begun flooding the market in recent years.

whitey19thcentury · #9 12-06-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Arsenal83

Has anyone started examining signed 52T? It seems like these have begun flooding the market in recent years.

I brought this up several days ago on this thread. I have bought and sold thousands of vintage signed cards over the past decade and have never seen such a big quantity of signed 1952 Topps as is out there now.

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