Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

gregr2 · #1 12-06-2018, 07:46 PM

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Al is and always has been a stand up guy, IMO.

This is the proper handling of a bad situation. Also good to see PSA taking a new and obviously more critical look at these cards.

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Peter_Spaeth · #2 12-06-2018, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gregr2

This is the proper handling of a bad situation. Also good to see PSA taking a new and obviously more critical look at these cards.

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Greg agree on PSA, but what happens if they start decertifying a whole generation of autographed cards, it will cause utter chaos, no?

gregr2 · #3 12-06-2018, 07:55 PM

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Greg agree on PSA, but what happens if they start decertifying a whole generation of autographed cards, it will cause utter chaos, no?

But isn�t that chaos what is needed? I mean, they need to get it right. Wouldn�t the hobby rather go through a time of chaos but at the end have it correct? To me, that seems like the right way to take it.

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deeg23 · #4 12-06-2018, 07:56 PM

Kudos to Al and PSA on that one 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Peter_Spaeth · #5 12-06-2018, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gregr2

But isn’t that chaos what is needed? I mean, they need to get it right. Wouldn’t the hobby rather go through a time of chaos but at the end have it correct? To me, that seems like the right way to take it.

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I suppose it's better than the alternative, but it will very ugly if it happens on a large scale.

gregr2 · #6 12-06-2018, 08:06 PM

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I suppose it's better than the alternative, but it will very ugly if it happens on a large scale.

Agree on that. To call into question every autograph authenticated over the last XX number of years could get very ugly and would be a detriment to the hobby. This is a situation I would enjoy sitting down and talking about for a few hours over drinks with a group of collectors. I would love to hear the various opinions of how to handle this and move forward. The past is the past, now how do we move beyond this and make the hobby better.

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Peter_Spaeth · #7 12-06-2018, 08:13 PM

Yeah, I really don't know. I only have a few autograph cards, the modern certified kind, so my opinion would mean much less than those of guys with big money invested in collections of these cards. I imagine that there's quite a lot of angst right now with collectors and TPG/TPA.

Kaneen · #8 12-06-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gregr2

This is the proper handling of a bad situation. Also good to see PSA taking a new and obviously more critical look at these cards.

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I don't know that I see this as such a magnanimous effort on the part of PSA...I mean, they did authenticate it to start with. And with this "house of cards" collapsing, doesn't it seem prudent on their part to get their slabs and flips off as many of these t206s as possible so they don't take the reputation hit that SGC and JSA are currently taking?

I once had an authenticator tell me about an item, "since I'm only rendering an opinion, I'm not saying this is not authentic...I'm just basically saying that I don't feel comfortable enough with it to put it in our holder."

In light of what has unfolded, I can see why PSA would be wise to now quickly become "uncomfortable" with it.

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