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12-12-2018, 08:45 PM
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I am undecided as to whether t215-1 (and t213-1) should be considered t206s, but I am working on several back runs and fully feel i need the type 1 version of the cards to complete the back run. In fact, I would like to get all t213 and t215 versions (including pirate back), as well as t214, to do a true and complete back run. Doesn’t answer your question Ted, but maybe advances the topic a bit.
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12-13-2018, 02:28 PM
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 PS- Merkle throwing Bresnahan batting Street catching, also missing the Red Hindu
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12-13-2018, 09:03 PM
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Do the T215-1 cards belong in the T206 set ?
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GOOD LUCK...finding the RED CROSS (T215-1) cards. You'll most likely find the red HINDU Street before you will find any of those RED CROSS (T215-1) cards. If I intend to run the entire white-bordered route, I start by "reverse engineering" the run....that is to start by acquiring the RED CROSS first, then follow up with all the rest of the cards. For example, that's how I began my Dots Miller run with this T215-1 card. Only nine backs needed in the T206 group, of which I still need the BROAD LEAF 350, CAROLINA BRIGHTS and DRUM (although, DRUM has yet to be confirmed for Miller).  TED Z .
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12-15-2018, 08:04 PM
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Do the T215-1 cards belong in the T206 set ?
* * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * *
     Shown here are some of the stars in the T215-1 set   Just a tidbit of Tobacco trivia...... P. Lorillard is the oldest tobacco products manufacturer in the U.S. ? Listed here is a breakdown of the 96 subjects in the T215-1 set with respect to their series in the T206 set...……….. 150/350 Series…...Summer/Fall 1909 Mathewson (white cap) 350-only Series…...Spring/Summer1910 Bender (trees) Byrne (St Louis) Eddie Collins (A's) Cree Doolan Dubuc Fromme Hartsel Hoblitzel Hofman Howard Huggins (portrait) Huggins (hands/mouth) Kelley Krause Lord Marquard (portrait) McGinnity Matty McIntyre Miller Mowrey Oakes Paskert Purtell Quinn Speaker Street (portrait) Warhop Wilson 350/460 Series…...Fall/Winter 1910 Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) M. Brown (Chicago) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) L. Doyle (bat)) Elberfeld (fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake (no ball) Leifield (bat) Magee (bat) Mathewson (dark cap) Harry McIntyre Mullin(bat) Murphy (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Pelty (vertical) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Frank Smith Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Jeff Sweeney Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (pitching) Willetts Wiltse (pitching) Cy Young (glove) 460-only Series…...Winter 1910/Spring 1911 Ball (Cleveland) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (batting) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore L. Doyle (portrait) Ford Herzog Hummel Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Murray (portrait) Oldring (bat) Schaefer (Washington) Schulte (back view) Sheckard (glove) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) OK, given the above list and the trades which resulted in new teams in the subjects captions (see post #580), let's see who is the Net54 genius that can logically figure out the 1st series T215-1 cards which were issued in 1910. And, as a result we will identify which cards were issued in 1912.....besides these 15 whose team changed from their T206 counterpart...… Byrne Pittsburgh Harry Davis Cleveland Donlin (bat) Pittsburg Griffith (bat) Washington Hartsel Toledo Herzog New York NL Huggins (portrait) St Louis NL Lord Chicago AL Harry McIntyre Chicago NL Matty McIntyre Chicago AL Mowrey St Louis NL Oakes St Louis NL Frank Smith Cincinnati Steinfeldt (bat) St. Louis NL Cy Young (glove) Boston NL  TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 12-16-2018 at 11:37 AM. Reason: Corrected typo.
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12-13-2018, 02:01 PM
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Do the T215-1 cards belong in the T206 set ?
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Hi Ryan Spoken like a true "white-bordered tobacco card collector"......good luck with your T-card runs. I try for all of American Litho's printed front/back combos in my serious T-card runs. Starting with my very 1st acquisition of the blue Chase (Willow Grove Show, March 1981)……….     . . . . . . . . . .  . . . . . . . . . .    .  Fac. #30..................Fac. #42 ................Fac. #42  .  A - B - C - C - D connection    Since 1981 (when I initially start my blue Chase run), I have never seen this T206 with a DRUM back. I have hope that eventually one will show up.   This run continues into the next post here...……… TED Z .
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