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Old 12-16-2018, 02:17 PM
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Could we get one true beater, cut it up into tiny bits, then “restore” each bit to now have, say, a dozen authentic cards?
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Old 12-16-2018, 02:45 PM
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In answer to the original question, I think we should feel happy for someone who got a card that he obviously really wanted. If it is not something that we would like (I really don't like the appearance of the card, but I am not against restoration) then we should not buy similar cards. However, we should always be happy for passionate collectors adding to their collections.
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Old 12-17-2018, 06:01 AM
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In answer to the original question, I think we should feel happy for someone who got a card that he obviously really wanted. If it is not something that we would like (I really don't like the appearance of the card, but I am not against restoration) then we should not buy similar cards. However, we should always be happy for passionate collectors adding to their collections.
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To each his own, which is what collecting is all about.
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Could we get one true beater, cut it up into tiny bits, then “restore” each bit to now have, say, a dozen authentic cards?
i think this gets to be cost prohibitive?
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not really! spring $400 k for a psa 1 .....the spend 20 k per card to add other T206 cardboard....."create" 12 cards " frankenwagners" sell 12 frankenwagners like the memory lane ...... be on easy street

cost:

$400,000.00 original + $20,000(restoration fee) (12)=

$640,000 K total cost

sell 12 "franken-wagners" @ =$420,000.00 (12)= $5,040,000.00

$5,040,000.00 revenue

$5,040,000.00 (revenue) - $640,000.00 (cost)= $4,400,000.00


4.2 million dollar profit from one original


DEFINITELY COST EFFECTIVE
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:04 PM
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definitely happy for the guy who won it! he must be very wealthy to drop almost a half million on a "re creation"
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not really! spring $400 k for a psa 1 .....the spend 20 k per card to add other T206 cardboard....."create" 12 cards " frankenwagners" sell 12 frankenwagners like the memory lane ...... be on easy street

cost:

$400,000.00 original + $20,000(restoration fee) (12)=

$640,000 K total cost

sell 12 "franken-wagners" @ =$420,000.00 (12)= $5,040,000.00

$5,040,000.00 revenue

$5,040,000.00 (revenue) - $640,000.00 (cost)= $4,400,000.00


4.2 million dollar profit from one original


DEFINITELY COST EFFECTIVE
there you have it...a career for someone who wants one!!!!!!
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:10 PM
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Default Pete....
hahaha!!!

the t206 auto forger is probably working on this now!

Hell......topps should buy a wagner and make "piece of history cards"

put 1/32 of a wagner on each insert(like a bat card) sell $20,000 each!

32 cards X 20,000k per insert = $640,000

beater $250k- $400 k

make a quarter million dollar profit
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sale of this "creation " will definitely set an ugly precedent.......




cars, art, I get......maybe even coins stretching it!



but stamps, paper currency and especially sports cards HELL NO!
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:25 PM
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Default one more point to re visit....
at what percentage of a restored card original cardboard is needed to consider it original???

1/32 nd???( 3.125%)..........1/10 th???(10 %)......1/5 th????(20 %).....

1/2 ???(50 %)
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hahaha!!!

the t206 auto forger is probably working on this now!

Hell......topps should buy a wagner and make "piece of history cards"

put 1/32 of a wagner on each insert(like a bat card) sell $20,000 each!

32 cards X 20,000k per insert = $640,000

beater $250k- $400 k

make a quarter million dollar profit
But what if someone get the piece that wasn't part of the original Wagner, but part of the restoration? Will Topps designated that like they do game-used jersey piece vs. event-worn jersey piece?
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lol.....no.....saying topps buy a 100% original and chop it up(not a franken one)
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hahaha!!!

the t206 auto forger is probably working on this now!

Hell......topps should buy a wagner and make "piece of history cards"

put 1/32 of a wagner on each insert(like a bat card) sell $20,000 each!

32 cards X 20,000k per insert = $640,000

beater $250k- $400 k

make a quarter million dollar profit
AND you'd be helping the market for all those that still own a real Wagner by reducing the quantity available. Win, win!
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Could we get one true beater, cut it up into tiny bits, then “restore” each bit to now have, say, a dozen authentic cards?

No it doesnt work that way , so much of the original has to be there ...
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