Are the "T213-1" (1910 COUPON) cards really T206's ? ....I think so....What say you ?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Leon

Ok, so my understanding comes from the 1942 ACC Supplement and the 1946 ACC, where might yours come from?

Leon

In the 1970's - 1980's, my understanding of the T206 set was first developed by talking BB cards with these hobby greats...…

Bill Heitman
Irv Lerner
Frank Nagy

It's a shame Jefferson Burdick didn't live to be 90, we would have been very fortunate to discuss all this hobby stuff with him.


TED Z

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[MichelaiTorres83]

I do not know who those people are but that sounds like heresay.

I do not have an opinion either way but I can see the argument.

To that point:

Couldn’t a wolf be considered a breed of dog or all dogs are wolves. What determines a wolf is not a dog?

A few characteristics and someone at some point in time someone some where decided there is enough of a difference that they should be considered two sepeate things followed by a bunch of people accepting that.

Will you find people that think a wolf is a dog? Yep.

[t206fix]

The coupon back does not include "350 Subjects" like the others (AB, cycle, drum, BL). Why?

[asphaltman]

Originally Posted by t206fix

The coupon back does not include "350 Subjects" like the others (AB, cycle, drum, BL). Why?

Off the top of my head Hindu, Old Mill, and EPDG do not state 150 subjects, 350 subjects, etc either. Edited to add, after looking Polar Bear, Carolina Brights and Tolstoi do not state subjects on the back either.

[AddieJoss]

These are my only T206 Coupon backs that I have.

[Sean]

This is my only Coupon Type-1, and it's another Engel. Why so many of this particular player?

It's not graded, and I don't plan to get it graded because I like to be able to demonstrate how different it is from other T206 cards.

It has back damage in the same place as most of the other Coupons, though it isn't quite as bad.


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[ullmandds]

Maybe it's just because there are a lot of Yankee/Highlander collectors...and it's a cool pose...is why we see all the engles????

[sb1]

Long shot, but does anyone recall a find or original collection where there were type 1 Coupons mixed with the other T206 brands. That would help cement their printing and distribution to the same time frame. I have purchased a couple of sizeable original collections of T206's, one of which was 90% Sovereign(all backs) indicating the smoker collector was a hardcore Sovereign cigarettes devotee.. There were a few other brands mixed in, but not many.

[RedsFan1941]

i bet Ted knows of one he can share with us

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sb1

Long shot, but does anyone recall a find or original collection where there were type 1 Coupons mixed with the other T206 brands. That would help cement their printing and distribution to the same time frame. I have purchased a couple of sizeable original collections of T206's, one of which was 90% Sovereign(all backs) indicating the smoker collector was a hardcore Sovereign cigarettes devotee.. There were a few other brands mixed in, but not many.

That's a good point Scott? I'm not super-intuned to t206...but I used to be! I can't recall a "find" of original cards that contained coupons????

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by sb1

Long shot, but does anyone recall a find or original collection where there were type 1 Coupons mixed with the other T206 brands. That would help cement their printing and distribution to the same time frame. I have purchased a couple of sizeable original collections of T206's, one of which was 90% Sovereign(all backs) indicating the smoker collector was a hardcore Sovereign cigarettes devotee.. There were a few other brands mixed in, but not many.

Hi Scott

Circa 2009 there was the "Louisiana find" of about 100 cards including T213-2 & 3, T214, T215 1 & 2, and T207's with RED CROSS backs (including Lowdermilk with RED CROSS back).
The timeline for this group of cards ranges from 1910 to 1919. And, what to me is most notable in this collection, is it does NOT include a single 1910 COUPON card.

I cannot think of any collection of any size that has included 1910 COUPON cards in my experience collecting vintage cards since 1977.


Scott, regarding your..... " I have purchased a couple of sizeable original collections of T206's, one of which was 90% Sovereign(all backs) ".....was this an original collection, and if so,
where did it originate from in the US ?

TED Z

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