Trimming Frauds Revealed | How Does It Impact Vintage???

[SetBuilder]

Is this normal with modern cards?

I found this LeBron James auto/patch card that sold for $4,755 in a BGS 9 holder.
Worthpoint link: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...site-919702239

Then the same card (which I'm pretty sure it's the same card even if I can't see the serial number...the auto is exactly the same) magically re-appears in a BGS 9.5 holder and sells for a staggering $40,000.
Worthpoint link: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...mes-1923179380

I can see how the surface grade can improve with some simple dirt removal, but how did the corners, centering, and edges somehow improve between 2014 and 2018?

Do these cards get better with age, like fine wines?

[mrvster]

wow.....that's crazy.....

[egbeachley]

They are saying that a couple cards went for over $100K. The alleged scammer, Eric Anthony Bitz, runs a company called BuyNiceCards or BNC out of Pennsylvania.

Here is a 13 second video that shows a typical BNC card and the untrimmed original as pulled from WorthPoint.

https://youtu.be/EJuO1SEucoY

[Peter_Spaeth]

Who the expletive pays 100K for a modern basketball card??

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who the expletive pays 100K for a modern basketball card??

The guy that couldn't afford a modern baseball card.

[Orioles1954]

The modern sports hobby dwarfs pre-war by leaps and bounds. The overall view is much different as these cards really aren't, nor were meant to be collected long-term. I don't think it's a lesser form of collecting, just different.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who the expletive pays 100K for a modern basketball card??

The highest confirmed sale on the card is less than 20k. So, the answer is probably no one. BNC had one for sale for 90k that didn't sell, so he has raised the price and now is trying to sell it for 175k.

[egbeachley]

Just repeating. They say there is a confirmed sale of $95K and 2 other private sales above that. Looking at the same card? There are probably hundreds of LeBron rookies.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Just repeating. They say there is a confirmed sale of $95K and 2 other private sales above that. Looking at the same card? There are probably hundreds of LeBron rookies.

Who says? There are no confirmed sales over 20k on the 03/04 Exquisite LeBron James RC /99. It would sell above that, but until one is actually sold, no one knows what the card actually sells for. Ask yourself, if there are 99 of these, why does the t206 Wagner with a lower population and higher value come up for auction every so often, but these are only sold "privately"?