Trimming Frauds Revealed | How Does It Impact Vintage???

AGuinness · #1 01-04-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

However you too make a very valid point that not enough time, it would seem, is spent examining the cards. I think the volume of cards and pressure to get submissions completed to avoid further backlogs results in more mistakes.

And the time it takes to examine a card is just one factor that is unknown, with the identity of the people doing the grading, their qualifications for the job, any cross-checking by other graders, etc. are more unknowns. More transparency on the TPG's part in the grading process would be welcome in the hobby, but I don't expect it to happen at all.

That said, over the past 20+ years, the market has determined that three TPGs have earned enough trust by collectors who venture into graded items. We'll have to see over the coming months and years if the trimming and forgery revelations will erode much, if any, of that trust and if any TPGs will take the opportunity to address the issues and improve on their service. I'm sorry to say that I don't have high expectations here, either.

bigfanNY · #2 01-04-2019, 01:11 PM

The cards we are talking about esp from Upper deck are on laser guided cutting machines that do not have 164th of an inch tolerance. for any Tpg to pass these cards is criminal. someone asked how centering and corners etc. could change from a 9 to a 9.5. THEY DID NOT the opinion changed and that is part of the process and I have no problem with it. But for them not to measure the card and hold them to the manufactured standard is completly on them.
Eventually a list of short cards in holders will be available. But lets be frank most people will not want their cards on that list.

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