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DeMar actually pre-dates Trench. I found some references to their existence as a felt novelty maker as early as 1915, or five years before Trench was founded. In 1917 they relocated from 170 Oak St. to 270 N. Division St. As far as I know the two companies were never related. I've seen maybe a half dozen or so pennants bearing their label. All were travel/souvenir pennants, typically with a city name sewn across them--and, from spine to tip, I might add. For that reason, for better or worse, I am fairly confident this was not sold as a Pirates baseball pennant. But, man it'd look cool when surrounded by some Pirates memorabilia.... This particular style, where the lettering goes from tip to spine, was offered by DeMar and other manufacturers of the day. It doesn't seem like it was very popular. (Unless maybe the consumer was dyslexic?) But, you will find this style offered in vintage felt novelty catalogues from that era. Here's an example of one, designated as "R-1", offered by the Arthur Mfg. Co. in Lowville, NY ca. 1925:
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Some more great research... many thanks!
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Picked this up yesterday at an antique show. I ended up going late so expectations were low. At the last table, I saw a pile of old pennants, mostly college and points of interest. From the what I can tell, this is a 1910 Kalamazoo Kazoos minor league pennant from the Southern Michigan League. Pennant is big 14x34 inches. Does anyone have any info on this? Really couldn’t find much.
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Very cool Kazooz pennant. Are you convinced it’s vintage? It looks almost to good to be true, although I can’t really imagine anyone doing repros of the Southern Michigan League.
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There are some condition issues, with a small hole underneath So Mich League and there are pin holes. The felt is soft and thick. Overall the condition is really good. Would seem odd that someone repro’ed it. Any signs to look for?
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It’s probably legit. It seems to be in fantastic shape for something over 100 years old. Congrats!
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If there was a tag, it is no longer there.
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On the new side for this thread... I recently picked up two less common 1981 49ers pennants. You have to laugh a bit at the Western Division Champions pennant. It is as if they did not expect to win any playoff games and were just really excited about winning the divsion. They had been pretty bad at the end of the 1970s, so I get it. It must not have had a very long shelf life, as NFC Champions and Super Bowl Champions pennants followed over the next few weeks (some in great number)
I've also posted pics of two 1981 49ers pennants that I am still chasing (if anyone happens to have them) |
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There is a similar Eagles pennant from 1980 (Super Bowl participant that year) but I don't think I've seen one for their opponent, the Oakland Raiders. Your NFC Champs pennant if very cool and very rare. But the roster pennant you pictured is near impossible. I've had that one my radar for years and have never seen one.
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Thought you might find it interesting that the same leaping Fielder image was used for an early Teens White Sox Pennant. Here's one from my collection that has the same Fielder, but in color and with a Baseball coming towards his glove. This pennant is oversized as well. Enjoy! |
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It came framed, from an auction house. I have not taken it apart to see if there is a tag on the reverse, but would guess there most likely is.
I have framed all of my oversized pennants for that very reason... no manufactured sleeves/covers will fit! |
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Someone (Mark?) said those standard frames made to hold (3) 8x10’s work for pennants, when you throw away the mat. That may be standard 12x30 pennants, though.
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Here is Frank Chance. The image is from either 1901, 1902, or 1904.
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That is awesome information... very cool that the portrayal is Frank Chance. Many thanks for that info! Rob: That's right.... the Aaron Bros. Frames that hold three 8 X 10s horizontally, work great for most standard size pennants. And while the 36" length sometimes works for oversized pennants, the 13" width always falls a bit short of accommodating the height. Last edited by perezfan; 01-26-2019 at 01:22 PM. |
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Found a little more info on DeMar Mfg. Co....
DeMar appears to have incorporated in 1911. It was founded in Buffalo, NY by Clifford E. DeMar, Elizabeth A. Winship, and Jessamine M. Davis. When it first opened it was located at 109 Oak St. inside the H.D. Taylor Building, a much larger manufacturer of automotive components. In those early days they were having trouble finding sewing machine operators and routinely advertised in the classifieds for such labor. By 1914 Clifford DeMar apparently skipped town, leaving some of his creditors (perhaps even Ms. Winship and Davis) high and dry. Back then there were no credit bureaus like Experian. There were, however, "credit men" whose job it was to keep track of debtors in their area and publish their names in annual publications, such as the Bulletin of National Association of Credit Men. Mr. DeMar's name appears in both the 1914 and 1915 editions of the above publication as a missing debtor. Such notoriety was intended to warn others that men like him were too risky to lend money to. But DeMar Mfg. Co. continued on without its namesake. In 1917 they were still making pennants and other novelty items. Evidently the company was doing well without Mr. DeMar, as they had moved out of the Taylor Building to some new digs up the street: first 170 Oak St; then 270 N. Division St. It doesn't look like the company survived the Great Depression. And, it seems their pennants were limited to travel and collegiate pennants only.
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Really enjoying these minor league pennants ... here’s one of my favorites ... does anyone recognize the graphic (besides the bison head)?
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Looks like Trench recycled their Fenway Park artwork for Offerman Stadium!
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Yep! Exact same graphic as Red Sox’ Fenway.
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