Mariano

[PiratesWS1979]

Originally Posted by gregr2

One of the better selections by the HOF recently.

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[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

+1

Can’t knock the selection. Hard to celebrate a Yankee doing anything though

[MVSNYC]

Incredible pitcher, and an even better human being.

Congrats, Mo.

[Fred]

Good for Mariano!

Too bad Roy Halladay won't be there for the ceremony.

[clydepepper]

A GOAT with only one pitch! AMAZING!

The first unanimous inductee had a spotless record on and off the field.

Truly someone worth revering.



In a sad coincidence, recent news of the Yankees' closer immediately prior to Mo will land him where he belongs...and, in keeping with the morals clause of my personal collection, all his cards will be shredded.


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[Vintageclout]

Let’s put the “save stat” in total perspective....great post WWII starters like Gibson, Marichal, Koufax, Seaver, Palmer, Hunter, Ford, Jenkins, etc. in their prime completed at least 50% (very conservative I might add) or better of their wins so they got BOTH the win and the save in those complete games! That just about ends the conversation about trying to ever compare a great relief pitcher to a great starter.

[oldjudge]

Obviously, you don't mean they got the save. That aside, this is a new era where it is rare for any pitcher to complete a game. Those were all great pitchers, but none was as head and shoulders above his competition as Mariano. Ultimately, the term starting pitcher may disappear; we will just have pitchers that throw three innings and those who throw one or less. When that happens and all pitchers are short stint pitchers it will become even more apparent how great Mariano was.

John-To say Mariano is no better than the Sparky Lyles and Ecks of the world would be the second biggest mistake I have ever seen, right after passing on a Taylor Shafer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

At least in theory, all innings are equal, and all runs scored against you count equally. Rivera averaged 78 innings per 162. He simply cannot be as valuable as guys who give you 200+ dominant innings.

[Throttlesteer]

It's a different game now. Mariano absolutely deserves it. I also supported Hoffman, since hes probably the second best closer and pitched for a much less talented Padres team.

[oldjudge]

What modern pitcher pitched as well as Mariano, regular season and post season, and threw more innings?

[Rickyy]

At his best, well...he was pretty much unhittable...

Ricky Y