Upcoming Locations For The National

buymycards · #1 02-03-2019, 08:36 AM

Maybe Frisco, TX would be a good place for a second National?

Rich Klein · #2 02-03-2019, 09:22 AM

If you really want to be in the DFW area you have to have a venue big enough for the purpose. We have outgrown the Arlington Convention Center and I think either Market Hall or the Dallas Convention Center are big enough. Each of these venues have other "issues" but nothing impossible to overcome.

Regards
Rich

BearBailey · #3 02-03-2019, 09:49 AM

Baltimore is by far the closest place for me and I loved both shows there, but since the riots the city is hurting, tourism, hotels and food are all significantly down. The past few seasons the hotel we stay at the Hilton, which you can walk to the convention center or look into Camden yards has been half of what it has been in years past. Not to mention Orioles attendance is down, and the only time you wait at restaurants is Friday or Saturday at prime times. While I would like to see it back in Baltimore I would think for now it�s time has passed. Maybe 10 years from now the city will have another resurgence but sadly right now it is a good place to avoid.

Rich Klein · #4 02-05-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBailey

Baltimore is by far the closest place for me and I loved both shows there, but since the riots the city is hurting, tourism, hotels and food are all significantly down. The past few seasons the hotel we stay at the Hilton, which you can walk to the convention center or look into Camden yards has been half of what it has been in years past. Not to mention Orioles attendance is down, and the only time you wait at restaurants is Friday or Saturday at prime times. While I would like to see it back in Baltimore I would think for now it�s time has passed. Maybe 10 years from now the city will have another resurgence but sadly right now it is a good place to avoid.

Um the disaster that was the Baltimore Orioles in 2018 may have had something to do with that as well.

leaflover · #5 02-07-2019, 04:08 AM

Long Beach Auditorium, Long Beach, California

The rare coin folks do just fine there for 4 days, 3 times a year.
Over 500 dealers.
On site Grading.
Lots of nearby attractions, Queen Mary, Disneyland, Dodgers, Angels

Leon · #6 02-03-2019, 09:52 AM

I am not a big Dallas proper fan. Lots of great people there, but going north a little, is more my taste. And I will go out on a limb and say that Frisco TX might be able to handle a larger show and have a big enough venue. The Ford Center (Cowboys HQ) has 510,000 square feet and is almost brand new. It still wouldn't be a gimee there as I am not sure how that all works

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The current (April) Texas Card Show is happening just a few minutes from it. According to Money Magazine the 2018 best place to live in the US is Frisco TX. It is like a brand new city, all shiny and new, was built overnight. I think out of town dealers, vendors and hobbyists will love Frisco. There is no more vibrant place around here, imo, (though we don't live there.) We are happy in our current house of 20 yrs, which is about 25 minutes away. Otherwise Frisco would have been a great option. All just 1 opinion.

http://money.com/money/collection/20.../frisco-texas/

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en...oiowHnoECAIQBg

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

If you really want to be in the DFW area you have to have a venue big enough for the purpose. We have outgrown the Arlington Convention Center and I think either Market Hall or the Dallas Convention Center are big enough. Each of these venues have other "issues" but nothing impossible to overcome.

Regards
Rich

Duluth Eskimo · #7 02-03-2019, 07:02 PM

I�m glad some people did well in Baltimore, but I skipped the last one there. Keeping it away from the west coast is just wrong. That�s what happens when a clown show runs it and is only in it for the money.

PS: who limits tables when their is a long line of people that want a booth and ton of extra space in the venue???? I guess more corporate booths and giveaways is what collectors really want after all.

You can�t even get the promoters to return an email or phone call much less think outside the box. No one should wonder why our hobby is going down the drain. Only passionate collectors are left, the days of getting people to �drop in� to a show are long gone. They need a 2nd mortgage to pay admission and get a couple of autographs.

vintagebaseballcardguy · #8 02-03-2019, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I am not a big Dallas proper fan. Lots of great people there, but going north a little, is more my taste. And I will go out on a limb and say that Frisco TX might be able to handle a larger show and have a big enough venue. The Ford Center (Cowboys HQ) has 510,000 square feet and is almost brand new. It still wouldn't be a gimee there as I am not sure how that all works

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The current (April) Texas Card Show is happening just a few minutes from it. According to Money Magazine the 2018 best place to live in the US is Frisco TX. It is like a brand new city, all shiny and new, was built overnight. I think out of town dealers, vendors and hobbyists will love Frisco. There is no more vibrant place around here, imo, (though we don't live there.) We are happy in our current house of 20 yrs, which is about 25 minutes away. Otherwise Frisco would have been a great option. All just 1 opinion.

http://money.com/money/collection/20.../frisco-texas/

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en...oiowHnoECAIQBg

Good stuff, Leon! The show you have going in April could grow into a viable alternative. Obviously, I would be all for that. It is exciting to have something like that within 4 hours of my home!

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ValKehl · #9 02-03-2019, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by buymycards

Maybe Frisco, TX would be a good place for a second National?

Rick, I like your idea, except let's make it The VINTAGE National - nothing newer than 1975 or 1980. I would come all the way from VA for this!

CurtisFlood · #10 02-04-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl

Rick, I like your idea, except let's make it The VINTAGE National - nothing newer than 1975 or 1980. I would come all the way from VA for this!

I sell almost 100% vintage, but at these shows a mix of vintage and modern card dealers works well. I think the new card guys are invigorating the hobby somewhat, and I can see the day that some of them will cross over and be our vintage dealers. Fact is vintage dealers are aging rapidly, if that doesn't happen the hobby will be left without vintage dealers in plentiful supply.

frankbmd · #11 02-07-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

I sell almost 100% vintage, but at these shows a mix of vintage and modern card dealers works well. I think the new card guys are invigorating the hobby somewhat, and I can see the day that some of them will cross over and be our vintage dealers. Fact is vintage dealers are aging rapidly, if that doesn't happen the hobby will be left without vintage dealers in plentiful supply.

How does one age rapidly?

Modern dealers must age less rapidly then.

I thought everyone aged one year at a time.

CurtisFlood · #12 02-07-2019, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd

How does one age rapidly?

Modern dealers must age less rapidly then.

I thought everyone aged one year at a time.

I pretty much held my own from 60 to age 69. Now everything hurts all the time and there is not the same recovery. I see it with lots of other dealers as well.

basesareempty · #13 02-08-2019, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

I sell almost 100% vintage, but at these shows a mix of vintage and modern card dealers works well. I think the new card guys are invigorating the hobby somewhat, and I can see the day that some of them will cross over and be our vintage dealers. Fact is vintage dealers are aging rapidly, if that doesn't happen the hobby will be left without vintage dealers in plentiful supply.

I agree. My 22 year old son has gotten back into collecting over the last two years. He is into the Bowman Chrome prospect game. Lately he has been taking the proceeds from this and buying HOF Baseball and Football RC for his personal collection. A year ago he wouldn�t have been interested in vintage at all. I think the new shiny stuff gets their foot in the door and in time I think some gravitate towards vintage.

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